martjuh.denB Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 i have a model with skin that i want to bring it in-gamethe model is made by myselfif i change the model or make a new one you can see through ithow and where can i change this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 does the skin has to be .dds or png? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson139 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think that the skin can be both .dds and .png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 nope, has to be a dds file, png's won't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 PNG does work! You just need to link the file inside the v3o, and there will be no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 PNG works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 so what do i have to do now?from bmp to png or dds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennie900 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 You can use what ever file format you want! They all work, but PNG, JPEG, BMP etc... files can all be edited easily... DDS 'locks' the file so people have to convert it first but DDS files can only be multiples of 512x512 for example 1024x1024 also works! I do not see the point in DDS files because anyone can still get inside them and edit them.Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 There is a simple purpose behind DDS format, it does not "lock" the file as you say, it in fact is used to compress the file size down, look at a BMP format image file, PNG, and compare it to the DDS format. That is why people opt to use the DDS files, they are much smaller which is a good thing for a mod you intend to distribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Locking compresses the files even more though just fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppysboy222 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hmm. I have a quick question. All the answers helped alot for me and probably for martjuh, but can you make skins in paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Xplorer is correct, it compresses the file size further when you "lock" the file, however, you must wait a little bit longer for the game to "unpack" them when it loads the mods as well, so it's a compromise.puppy's on a scale of 1-10 MS paint ranks to a -20 or so in usefulness regarding skinning... Even a freeware paint application is vastly superior in it's functions compared to MS paint... To do more advanced things, generally speaking you're going to need a higher grade application (PSP or Photoshop). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 but if i save the skin as bmp you can look through it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 the problem: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennie900 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Thats because the faces are the wrong way, you need to select them all and 'flip' them, not sure what 3D aplication you are using, but yeah need to 'flip' them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 so i have to flip it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 i can't get it with zmodelercan you help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hmm. I have a quick question. All the answers helped alot for me and probably for martjuh, but can you make skins in paint?As mikey said paint sucks but it is possible. You can pick up older versions of Adobe Photoshop, like v 7, for under $100 if i recall correctly.If thats out of your budget, give paint.net a try http://www.getpaint.net/I personally use photoshop 7. I have tried CS series but I just dont like them as much as 7. The only major advantage of say CS4, is it handles more image formats, and it can even load a 3ds model in 3d. Over all though it just doesnt offer much new to make me want to switch, and thats price aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martjuh.denB Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 but i have the skins from a website and i moke it from .GIF to .BMP with GIMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppah Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I do not know GIMP, but it might be better to finish the model in your Zmodeler2 first before exporting it to the game.Maybe post some screenshots of the model in Zmodeler2.Png, bmp, jpg and dds should all work in Emergency 4 as textures for models.However, dds has the best compression what might result in a better performance compared to bmp and other formats.Do not use paint for texturing. If you ever want to be able to make good textures you need to use more professional software.but if i save the skin as bmp you can look through itMaybe you saved the bmp including a black alpha channel which makes your model invisible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...