Offering my assistance.

[Hoppah]

Thanks for all the information. It's very interesting as I don't have any experience with things like that. :1046275747_biggthumpup:

Before I will considering adding more medical units I want to change some vehicles first. That's more important I think.

I need to change most Fire Dept. vehicles and maybe some police vehicles too, to make the mod more realistic.

But I haven't finished the new (Forest fire) mission yet, so it will take some time before I can work on new units.

[firefighter111]

Hoppah, just an idea, but since there are 3 different ambulances in your mod, can you make 1 of them with just the 2 medics for those of us who don't mind gettin the stretcher?

or better yet why don't you just sound the alarm, pull out all the ambulances, have them return to the fire station unload their crew, and staff them with two medics. and any incoming ambulances you can just have arrive with two medics

[MikesPhotos]

WHAT?!?!?!? Station 41 has AN AMBULANCE?!?!?!? Holy crap they didn't even have a fully staffed medic engine when I was there! Just a "medic assessment"! I spent my BLS years working for AMR before the big amr implosion. How does the staffing work in willowbrook? Is it just the 3-4 guys at the station, or are they up to 5-6 with the ambulance? Why can they justify an ambulance there but not in a somewhat farther away area like huntington park? Anyways I'd love to see a picture of that RA 41 (is that what they label it?). Memories....I ran some crazy calls with the 41 guys. I learned alot.

While I normally spend my time in Battalions 1 and 5 (west hollywood and malibu/calabasas) I've had the pleasure of heading down to 41s and 16s on a few occasions. It's definetly an experience that everyone in the department should try at least once. Since MLKs ER closed, they found that staffing the ambulance, known as MA41 (mobile aid) ,was the best way of handling the situation since the station is right across the street from the old ER. The reason factored in the number of calls, type of calls, and the response time for private transports as opposed to being able to scoop and run on their own. They first considered just adding a staffed squad, but after weighing the pros and cons, and the special circumstances that the ER closure presented, it was found that this was the best model for the area. I'll try and get down there shortly and take a pic of it, but I have to admit, it wasnt anything impressive the last time I saw it. Just a Van style ambulance in a dark old red paint scheme, with Los Angeles County Fire Dept on it in stencilled lettering.

Thanks for all the information. It's very interesting as I don't have any experience with things like that. 1046275747_biggthumpup.gif

Before I will considering adding more medical units I want to change some vehicles first. That's more important I think.

I need to change most Fire Dept. vehicles and maybe some police vehicles too, to make the mod more realistic. smile.gif

But I haven't finished the new (Forest fire) mission yet, so it will take some time before I can work on new units.

You are quite welcome, if nothing else it gives you a bit of insight into things. And I agree with you, my recomendations were more in tune with Mod 2.0 or 4.0 vs anything recent. I'm looking forward to the new mission and updates though I must admit, I'm still having a great time with the way things currently are.

If you have any questions or need any details, feel free to ask!

Mike

[MikesPhotos]

Hey Hoppah,

As you may know we're having another wind event today here in Los Angeles. A lot of down power lines, snapped poles, and blowing embers making even the most minor fire into a major one.

While on an incident, something struck me that I completely forgot about. In Los Angeles City, we have what is known as OPG tow. OPG stands for Official Police Garage, and these are the official private tow companies for the city of Los Angeles and handle all impound and accident calls. While they are private companies, they all follow the same paint scheme as you can find here at the Hollywood tow service

White cab, black flat bed, with the OPG seal on the doors and tow company name on the side as you can see here

it's the same model, same animation and everything that is in the current in-game tow vehicle, just different look.

Also in regards to the Coroners vehicle, in Los Angeles County the coroners office uses vans like the one you have modeled with Amber colored lights, or specialty vehicles with red lights as you can see here:

Pic 1 - Similar to the Fictional MCI vehicle you have in the game

and pic 2

and Pic 3 (not mine)

Mike

[Voodoo_Operator]

Pic 1 - Similar to the Fictional MCI vehicle you have in the game

This one looks exactly like an ATF truck I am considering making as a variation to my International-Pierce rig. Even the blue stripe layout seems to be the same.

[Guest haggibear]

About those medics.

1 option would be that there is paramedics and then doctors. And when patient is in yellow (going to die) "balk" goes little bit slower than it does now and ONLY doctor (comes only with that medic 1 car) can heal patient from yellow. Just idea and would be good and if no one else have suggested that

[MikesPhotos]

About those medics.

1 option would be that there is paramedics and then doctors. And when patient is in yellow (going to die) "balk" goes little bit slower than it does now and ONLY doctor (comes only with that medic 1 car) can heal patient from yellow. Just idea and would be good and if no one else have suggested that

Hmmm I don't know whether or not I'm reading this correct, but isn't that pretty much how the original game is? The main idea of my post regarding a change to the EMS in the game was to reflect the practices of the Emergency Medical System in the Los Angeles area. Your idea, while interesting, is the exact opposite.

On a totally seperate note...

Hoppah, as you may have seen in the Off Topic forum, I happened to jump a City call a few days ago and grab some shots that you might find interesting. It was a residential 2 sty apartment house fire during high winds which brought out all of the big boys to play. Division Chief 3 was in charge, and EMS 10, EMS 14 (the EMS truck that people commented on), the new USAR88 which is using a vehicle very similar to the Hazmat rigs now with the exception of a large metallic structure on its roof, and Hazmat Squad 87 amongst others.

You can see the pics here.

Some previews:

99 pics in all

I also asked about the new EMS vehicle, and the general impression was that they can't wait to get the crown vic back as soon as possible.

Mike

[Hoppah]

Great pictures Mike! Why was Hazmat on scene? I will take a closer look at the pictures when I have some more time.

Oh and. I just saw this vehicle:

http://www.mikesphotos.us/gallery2/key/Los...tment?g2_page=2

That's one of coolest police SUV's I've ever seen! Want to replace my LAPD SUV (which actually doesn't exist) now!

But, Isn't LA County Police Department the same as LA Sheriff's Department? Because I can't find any information about LACoPD.

[police189]

Well i am not 100% sure but here in georgia there is only county police when the county its self is so big and they would be like a regular police department, where the sheriff office in a small county would be a full service department which means they go on patrol and do everything. BUT when there is a county police agency That county police agency will take the "full service" job instead of the sheriff office the sheriff office would just do warrents,court things,and maybe traffic but not answer calls for duty.Not to sure if it is the same out west but if that helped well there you go lol. and btw yeah the county police suv would be pretty cool i dont know if you want to make another police agency in the mod but that would be pretty bad ass to have L.A. county police.

[RiotGear]

But, Isn't LA County Police Department the same as LA Sheriff's Department? Because I can't find any information about LACoPD.

http://ops.co.la.ca.us/

[MikesPhotos]

Great pictures Mike! Why was Hazmat on scene? I will take a closer look at the pictures when

I have some more time.

Glad you like them Hoppah, the thumbnails don't really do them justice at all! As I Mentioned in the main mod thread, the HAZMAT squad is more then just for HAZMATs much the way the USAR rig doesn't just go to USAR calls! LAFD HAZMAT squads respond to all structure fires within a mile of their fire station, as well as to various other calls to perform various duties such as RIC (rapid intervention crew) or just as additional manpower.

Oh and. I just saw this vehicle:

http://www.mikesphotos.us/gallery2/key/Los...tment?g2_page=2

That's one of coolest police SUV's I've ever seen! Want to replace my LAPD SUV (which

actually doesn't exist) now!

But, Isn't LA County Police Department the same as LA Sheriff's Department? Because I can't

find any information about LACoPD.

Ah yes, this is a question I hear quite often in fact! No the Los Angeles County Police Department is not the same, nor affiliated with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. In fact, they are two very distinct and separate agencies! It's official name is the Los Angeles County Office of Public Safety and they were formed when the County merged the Park Police, Department of Health Services’s Police, and Internal Services Department’s Safety Police to form one agency.

You can read more about them here.

Mostly they provide security and law enforcement at county owned property such as hospitals, parks, and government buildings. The Los Angeles County Sheriffs department still handles routine law enforcement duties in unincorporated areas, as well as contract cities. They're also in charge of the county jails, court buildings, and other duties typical of a sheriffs department.

As for the LAPD Ford Explorer, I've seen quite a few, but only for K9 Units that I can recollect. I do know they did have Jeeps down in the Venice beach area when I lived there in the mid 90s.

Mike

[Guest Utrechtterror]

Mike, how much did your hits grow since you are on this forum ?

[police189]

But does the county police out there actually patrol or they just do patrol of parks ,government areas,ect?

[Guest firemanzac]

Mike,

How does OES fall into the grand scheme of things? Do they have there own firefighters or do they just provide engines for departments to staff in the case of strike teams? Also, if there not on a state emergency, can the individual department run the engine on calls as if it was there own? Do you know Brian Humphrey per chance? He is an old friend of mine.

[Spaloo]

But does the county police out there actually patrol or they just do patrol of parks ,government areas,ect?

LA County Sheriff does patrol work for unincorporated areas and contracted cities (alot of areas, in fact). LA County Police generally does security work. They have "patrol cars" but generally stay within the confines of their designated areas (parks, county hospitals and buildings, etc)

Mike,

How does OES fall into the grand scheme of things? Do they have there own firefighters or do they just provide engines for departments to staff in the case of strike teams? Also, if there not on a state emergency, can the individual department run the engine on calls as if it was there own? Do you know Brian Humphrey per chance? He is an old friend of mine.

I'm not Mike, but I think I can field this one. OES provides equipment such as fire engines to certain fire departments. It is the fire departments' duty to staff the engines and man the equipment. The only dept I was familiar wth that had an OES engine was La Habra Heights FD, and I know they did not use the OES engine except when requested to do so by the state.

[james23222000]

Do LAFD have water tenders with water cannons on top of them?

[Hoppah]

No, my Water Tender is based on a LAFD Foam Tender.

If I'm not wrong, LAFD Engine's have a watercannon on top of the engine.

But I can't combine a water cannon with hose connections, so the engine's in my mod are for the hoses and the water tender have the cannon.

@ Mikesphoto's:

Why is your website offline?

I just wanted to start with changing the vehicles.

[Bernt]

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http://mikesphotos.us/ He's back!!!!

[Hoppah]

Mike, I need your help again.

This is a watercannon, right?

My fire engine's don't have it and I want to model it on them.

I probably can't make it work ingame, but it will look nice nevertheless.

Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

[MikesPhotos]

Hi everyone, I am indeed back! I had a great vacation at disneyland and brought in the new year right!

Mike, how much did your hits grow since you are on this forum ?

Honestly, not to much. The malibu fire pics I posted slammed my server big time though due to the news attention they recieved. I average about 4 to 6k hits a day, but that was hitting about 15! 72% through search engines, 11% direct.

But does the county police out there actually patrol or they just do patrol of parks ,government areas,ect?

LA County Sheriff does patrol work for unincorporated areas and contracted cities (alot of areas, in fact). LA County Police generally does security work. They have "patrol cars" but generally stay within the confines of their designated areas (parks, county hospitals and buildings, etc)

Spaloo is correct once again. While they are all sworn police officers, POST level I, they mostly provide security details and park patrols. In the game, they would be the ones who would respond to fights and such at the Hospital on the map.

Mike,

How does OES fall into the grand scheme of things? Do they have there own firefighters or do they just provide engines for departments to staff in the case of strike teams? Also, if there not on a state emergency, can the individual department run the engine on calls as if it was there own? Do you know Brian Humphrey per chance? He is an old friend of mine.

I'm not Mike, but I think I can field this one. OES provides equipment such as fire engines to certain fire departments. It is the fire departments' duty to staff the engines and man the equipment. The only dept I was familiar wth that had an OES engine was La Habra Heights FD, and I know they did not use the OES engine except when requested to do so by the state.

The California Office of Emergency Services is a separate agency that reports directly to the governor of california. It's primary responsibilities involve coordination of local, state and federal agencies to best affect the State's Emergency Plan. The provide overhead, funding, and equipment amongst other services to all large incidents and disasters in this state. What you are probably referring to and what Spaloo commented on are the yellow OES Engines and Water Tenders. The OES has a program in which various agencies throughout the state, both Career and Volunteer recieve Engines and Water Tenders under specific rules and guidelines. The way the program works is that the department gets the apparatus under the agreement that it will NOT be used as a front line apparatus, but can be used for Reserve, temp staffing, and to cover a station. All staffing is done by the local government agency (the fire dept that gets the apparatus) and all repair and maintenance over $100 is paid for by the state.

When a major emergency occurs, the OES will notify the local agency to staff the apparatus and form up into a local area strike team to head to the emergency. Most departments have no more then 1 or 2 OES apparatus, and so a local area strike team will normally have 5 engines from 5 different agencies under the command of a local Battalion Chief. This way the incident gets the necessary resources, but no one agency is left depleted and with empty stations.

As for the Venerable and Esteemed Brian Humphrey.. No I do not know him personally. We have conversed via email and on message groups a few times but that is the extent. For those who do not know the name, Brian Humphrey is the amazing and truly gifted PIO/FIO of the Los Angeles City Fire Department. A Firefighter III/Specialist, his breadth of knowledge and his skill at his job is second to none. He has been such a gift to that department and to the fire service as a whole that those of us who live in this area owe him a large measure of gratitude. His name and that of Bill Peters of the California Dept of Forestry and Fire Protection are truly revered amongst those who even consider being a PIO/FIO.

Do LAFD have water tenders with water cannons on top of them?

No, my Water Tender is based on a LAFD Foam Tender.

If I'm not wrong, LAFD Engine's have a watercannon on top of the engine.

But I can't combine a water cannon with hose connections, so the engine's in my mod are for the hoses and the water tender have the cannon.

Hoppah answered this one correctly. All Engines do have a Deck gun, but the water tenders do not.

@ Mikesphoto's:

Why is your website offline?

I just wanted to start with changing the vehicles.

Unfortunatly, the best laid plans of mice and men do often go awry! We got struck with a powerful winter rain storm here in the Los Angeles area that knocked out power to my area for quite a bit. On top of that, my backup host in the Midwest also went down due to snow!

Hopefully everything is back up and running now, and I am home as well!

Mike

[Mrtucker555]

Mike, I need your help again.

This is a watercannon, right?

My fire engine's don't have it and I want to model it on them.

I probably can't make it work ingame, but it will look nice nevertheless.

Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

hoppah those are moniters they are water turrets that are on top of the truck but may also be removed and put on the ground if needed here is what they look like and as you can see they are attached to a hose so firefighters can take them and move them http://www.pokfire.com/images/product/monitor/poket.jpg

[MikesPhotos]

Mike, I need your help again.

This is a watercannon, right?

My fire engine's don't have it and I want to model it on them.

I probably can't make it work ingame, but it will look nice nevertheless.

Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

That is indeed the deck gun! Mounted midship above the pump on every Fire Engine in the LA City and County fleet, they provide a powerful stream of water for use in defensive firefighting operations. Commonly used to extinguish trash fires safely, they can also be dismounted and placed on the ground around a building as a manned or unmanned "monitor." You can see great video of a deck gun competition back east

For an arcticle on Deck Gun drills that may provide you with some more insight, and perhaps give some ideas to the Firefighters on this page, check out this one from Fire Engineering Magazine.

As for better pics of it, my next shift is tommorow and I'll try and grab some close up shots of it for you. You can bassically see it on every engine pic I have though, but here is a shot from a friend of mine on his own website of the deck gun in action on a Burbank FD rig.

I'll let you know when the additional pics are added.

Mike

[MikesPhotos]

Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

Ask and you shall receive! Just got done editing the pictures from yesterday and took a bunch just for you Hoppah. Check out this link and be sure to click on the TC with injuries albumlink as well to see close ups of the Deck gun. FS125 be drilling on it sometime this month so i'll be getting some shots of that as soon as it happens. There is also a forcecible entry and truck work drill coming up in Station 16s area that I have scheduled.

Normally E125 mounts a Brush Nozzle on it due to the area, but you can mount many different kinds that affect the Gallons Per Minute that comes out of it. The largest one we have is around 600gpm which still allows us to pull 2 lines off the rig since we can pump about 1000gpm without a problem.

Also I found out that they changed the County's protocols and we no longer remove the deck gun from the engines for use as a ground monitor. There was a problem or something somewhere, no one really knew why, but we've been directed that they're to remain attached to the engine. For ground monitors, we can take the nozzle off the Quints and Trucks and mount it on a stand for that kind of work which makes sense and is much easier actually.

Also check out this link to see pics of LACoFD's Q125 with the cab tilted foreward.

Here are also two shots that I did NOT take of LAFD apparatus with its cab tilted:

Engine and Truck 48

E48 and E64

Mike

P.S ...

One thing I forgot to mention, I also took some shots of the investigating CHP officer so you could see the uniform as well as a shot of the Polar Bear (White slicktop crown vic CHP commercial enforcement vehicle) that had a new light set up that I have not come across before. Rear view mirror had dual led steady burn red and fast flashing blue with non alternating flashing leds at angles on the front border. To the rear it had an arrowbar with red and blue end lights instead of the general all amber with blue and red lights mounted above it.

[Hoppah]

Great pictures. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your help. Thanks thanks thanks.

[MikesPhotos]

Great pictures. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your help. Thanks thanks thanks.

You're quite welcome. Hopefully those will help with your next update. I remembered seeing this pic on flickr before and I finally tracked it down. It's of an LAFD Pierce flowing the deck gun on olympic blvd.

Note: NOT one of my pics.