Project Nostalgia Submod [RELEASED - Bugfixes Uploaded Regularly]

[fdnyarmenian]

On 9/3/2022 at 4:38 PM, Tamir said:

Found a bug, when you spawn the 90's FD set battalion 4 will have lights on, you can't turn them on and off, its not even his ELS

this is the latest version, 1.02

Just buy a new unit and send this home from the fire station

[KV-1]

Hey! I'm loving this mod, a suggestion though, maybe you fellas at Project Nostalgia can add a tank wagon? I would think it would be quite efficient, especially with the 3 forest areas around the map.

Off the top of my head here is information about them if you are not familiar:

Tank wagons (officially called as "tank wagons") were the tankers of the Los Angeles Fire Department, dating back to the 1930s, and in service to this day (LAFD currently has 2 tankers per Wikipedia). Tank Wagons of the 50s-80s generally had 350-2500 gallons on them depending on the make/model

This one, Tanker 97 has 600 gallons on it, really for brush fires with smaller hoses, it also has a bunch of supply line, and I believe two handline hookups, used by the mountain patrol.

http://www.usfirepolice.net/ca_california/ca_lafd/ca_los_angeles_retired_tanker_97_(2)-1.jpg

 

This on the other hand has 2500 gallons of water on it, with a little more supply line but the same amount of handlines able to get pulled off of it, 2-3 connectors, way higher capacity pump and tank, this was used by a station that was closer to the brush, but not a fully fledged mountain patrol truck.

http://www.usfirepolice.net/ca_california/ca_lafd/ca_los_angeles_retired_tanker_39_(2)-1.jpg

[LT_Shadow]

Found some new bugs in the recent (but beautiful) update.

1. The usual new mission bug (can't shut the gas canister in "release of toxic chemical"

2. Airport collision has irrecoverable errors (no matter how many times you spam retry)

3. VIP escort doesn't let you command vehicles (yet you can spawn them in)

4. All paramedics inside the medical heli exit after transporting the patient to the hospital (idk if this a bug or not but it's irritating)

5. LA county FD equipped with SCBA's (from the spawn unit menu) dont get registered into the game. Found this out while i played the tunnel accident.

6. Encountered a real strange one while I played the witness protection mission (vanilla mission for those who might confuse it with the VIP). Rapid deployment and mounting the water cannon on one of the engines caused every unit (including personnel) to go invisible 

7. Telling a police unit to pursue causes the game to crash (only happened once so far but im posting here just in case someone else can confirm it) 

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suggestions: 

CHP station (obviously it will be small like the sheriffs office. maybe it can be placed up on the hill?)

Train collision call

 

Edited September 11, 2022 by LT_Shadow
had to move some sentences around and also add a new bug report to the mod

[floaterjr]

Just wanted to stop by and say it's crazy how people are still keep up mods for this game after all these years.

Amazing mod, and amazing work!

[floaterjr]

I have a bug - the sirens are not working. Cars spawn usually with siren off, but even when you press the siren button the sirens don't work.

I installed Project Nostalgia as a standalone mod on a clean Em4 install. I've tried it as a LA submod, as a standalone, and a standalone with LA mod's audio files. Anyone have a fix for no siren?

 

EDIT: Fixed. If you have no siren or siren, or other issues of assets/things missing try what I did:

1. Completely delete the mod from your mod folder.

2. Re-download the files from the mega(dot)nz. My first download was corrupt. The files you download for this submod should contain stuff like a text file/pdf for a userguide, credits for the mod, and an in-game logo for the mod. If these are missing, your files may be incomplete.

3. Re-install as a stand-alone mod, not a sub-mod of the LA Mod.

I did this, I got the full files, and my game has been mostly fine since! So something could screw-up on the mega(dot)nz download so try again (even if mega(dot)nz is already downloaded and you click save again like I did the second time).

[Squad 65]

On 9/11/2022 at 3:07 AM, LT_Shadow said:

Found some new bugs in the recent (but beautiful) update.

1. The usual new mission bug (can't shut the gas canister in "release of toxic chemical"

2. Airport collision has irrecoverable errors (no matter how many times you spam retry)

3. VIP escort doesn't let you command vehicles (yet you can spawn them in)

4. All paramedics inside the medical heli exit after transporting the patient to the hospital (idk if this a bug or not but it's irritating)

5. LA county FD equipped with SCBA's (from the spawn unit menu) dont get registered into the game. Found this out while i played the tunnel accident.

6. Encountered a real strange one while I played the witness protection mission (vanilla mission for those who might confuse it with the VIP). Rapid deployment and mounting the water cannon on one of the engines caused every unit (including personnel) to go invisible 

7. Telling a police unit to pursue causes the game to crash (only happened once so far but im posting here just in case someone else can confirm it) 

 

Only one I have had is #5, other than that I've not found any crashing from the police units.

[LT_Shadow]

On 9/20/2022 at 7:16 PM, Squad 65 said:

Only one I have had is #5, other than that I've not found any crashing from the police units.

I'm guessing its because EM4 is weird whenever you play missions in a certain order. Cause it happens on another mod as well. These are just some random bugs i've encountered so its probably just the game saying, "alright i shut down now and make you restart me"

[Anto Mart]

I just found this thingo in my Facebook. I think that you would like it:

[itchboy]

On 9/3/2022 at 10:38 PM, Tamir said:

Found a bug, when you spawn the 90's FD set battalion 4 will have lights on, you can't turn them on and off, its not even his ELS

this is the latest version, 1.02

I'll fix this ASAP.

On 9/10/2022 at 3:29 AM, Tamir said:

Have you thought about adding AMR? 
I saw they were founded in 1992, so it's good for the 90's set as a private ambulance

I'd rather focus on adding defunct agencies because they deserve more representation. AMR is known in the EMS community as a "machine" that buys out many small time ambulance companies.

On 9/11/2022 at 5:54 AM, KV-1 said:

Hey! I'm loving this mod, a suggestion though, maybe you fellas at Project Nostalgia can add a tank wagon? I would think it would be quite efficient, especially with the 3 forest areas around the map.

I'll see what I can do with these. I'm either going to make the yellow colored Kenworth tanker, the Ford tanker, or one of the vintage tankers. It all comes down to how many pictures I can find. If there are no conclusive pictures then I will have to wait on them for a bit.

On 9/11/2022 at 3:07 PM, LT_Shadow said:

 

I'll look into fixing those mission bugs. Some of them are Em4 being problematic, but the airport collision mission seems to be my screw up. I'll fix that ASAP.

On 9/21/2022 at 10:02 AM, floaterjr said:

I have a bug - the sirens are not working. Cars spawn usually with siren off, but even when you press the siren button the sirens don't work.

Glad you fixed your issue. Thank you as well for posting the solution.

On 9/27/2022 at 1:11 PM, Anto Mart said:

I just found this thingo in my Facebook. I think that you would like it:

It's hideous. I probably won't do it because we don't have any SCBA script in this submod.

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The 1978 LAFD Brush Truck is in WIP. I need to finish the vehicle model first before I can make the pumps.

[Tamir]

4 hours ago, itchboy said:

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I'll fix this ASAP.

I'd rather focus on adding defunct agencies because they deserve more representation. AMR is known in the EMS community as a "machine" that buys out many small time ambulance companies.

I'll see what I can do with these. I'm either going to make the yellow colored Kenworth tanker, the Ford tanker, or one of the vintage tankers. It all comes down to how many pictures I can find. If there are no conclusive pictures then I will have to wait on them for a bit.

I'll look into fixing those mission bugs. Some of them are Em4 being problematic, but the airport collision mission seems to be my screw up. I'll fix that ASAP.

Glad you fixed your issue. Thank you as well for posting the solution.

It's hideous. I probably won't do it because we don't have any SCBA script in this submod.

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The 1978 LAFD Brush Truck is in WIP. I need to finish the vehicle model first before I can make the pumps.

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looking great!

[KV-1]

On 9/28/2022 at 4:50 AM, itchboy said:

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I'll fix this ASAP.

I'd rather focus on adding defunct agencies because they deserve more representation. AMR is known in the EMS community as a "machine" that buys out many small time ambulance companies.

I'll see what I can do with these. I'm either going to make the yellow colored Kenworth tanker, the Ford tanker, or one of the vintage tankers. It all comes down to how many pictures I can find. If there are no conclusive pictures then I will have to wait on them for a bit.

I'll look into fixing those mission bugs. Some of them are Em4 being problematic, but the airport collision mission seems to be my screw up. I'll fix that ASAP.

Glad you fixed your issue. Thank you as well for posting the solution.

It's hideous. I probably won't do it because we don't have any SCBA script in this submod.

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The 1978 LAFD Brush Truck is in WIP. I need to finish the vehicle model first before I can make the pumps.

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Fair enough! I found two pictures of the Kenworth Tank Wagon and two of the GMC they had, I also found some brush "tankers" which would be pretty useless as none of them had anything over 400 gallon water tanks. I did however find pictures of the early to late 1940s Mack 45u COE tankers they had, which had around 600 gallons of water on it.

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http://www.usfirepolice.net/ca_california/ca_lafd/ca_lafd_retired_tanker.html

http://www.usfirepolice.net/ca_california/ca_lafd/ca_lafd_retired_brush.html

[kbryce702]

I can just imagine a 80s call to be the 1984 pepsi incident .

If Itchboy dosent know what im talking about this is what im talking about:

 

[miles451]

On the topic of tankers I did notice the LA public works truck in the background of this picture looks like an 80s style ford f700, I would assume the 1951 kenworth made it into the mid 80s. That's the one truck that has good photos here and there but lack of any other information.

(edit:) I looked in the book that I have and found that this tanker was in service at 88s in it's later years.

[miles451]

These two pages might be helpful aswell.

[itchboy]

8 hours ago, miles451 said:

These two pages might be helpful aswell.

Well damn, you got me dead to rights.

That's literally what I need.

For a lack of pictures, those are the only ones I'll be making.

I will have to finish the brush truck first, though.

[kbryce702]

Im Thinking that there will be a V2 of this mod because itchboy said some Early 2000s units are going to be in the mod but he said he is done with this mod(i not saying that itchboy is suppoesd to add early 2000s units.its already good with the 1960s-1990s units,we don't need 1960s-2000s)

[miles451]

This picture might be somewhat helpful, I haven't found any other information on Adams ambulances but the picture is dated 1984.

https://lacaa.net/about/ This is the website it came from, it might also be helpful but that was the only photo it had for the 80s-90s timeframe.

It also has some photos of the Cadillac style ambulances that made it into the late 70s and early 80s.

https://aaoc.net/about-us/ couple of good pictures here including a what looks to be a CARE Ford E-series with a larger box. (Although orange county is probably out of the way for this mod)

Edited October 5, 2022 by miles451
Adding information.

[KV-1]

On 10/1/2022 at 8:37 PM, itchboy said:

Well damn, you got me dead to rights.

That's literally what I need.

For a lack of pictures, those are the only ones I'll be making.

I will have to finish the brush truck first, though.

Awesome! Glad you are adding some tankers in. Any chance you can make the Kenny or the Mack too? I can get you some more pictures of the Mack if you want and Kenworth as well.

[miles451]

I've been debating on posting these photos since you said previously a telesqurt wouldn't be added due to MP concerns, this one could probably be scripted like any other ladder truck, and would be a good addition to the other 200 series engines.

[Squad 65]

7 minutes ago, miles451 said:

I've been debating on posting these photos since you said previously a telesqurt wouldn't be added due to MP concerns, this one could probably be scripted like any other ladder truck, and would be a good addition to the other 200 series engines.

If I remember right, I think Itch said that for more of the Snorkel, a Telesquirt could work in MP since its practically another Ladder / Quint. 

[slfpmedia_26]

On 10/7/2022 at 4:36 PM, miles451 said:

I've been debating on posting these photos since you said previously a telesqurt wouldn't be added due to MP concerns, this one could probably be scripted like any other ladder truck, and would be a good addition to the other 200 series engines.

jJust curious, what book is this?

[miles451]

Horses to horsepower is the name of the book. I believe the authors and the LAFDHS made a series of books, one with harbor operations and the other seems to point at it being about LAFD stations themselves, There could be others but I haven't looked any further.

[itchboy]

On 10/3/2022 at 6:49 AM, kbryce702 said:

Im Thinking that there will be a V2 of this mod because itchboy said some Early 2000s units are going to be in the mod but he said he is done with this mod(i not saying that itchboy is suppoesd to add early 2000s units.its already good with the 1960s-1990s units,we don't need 1960s-2000s)

I have changed course on that. Instead of making a 2000's LA mod, I will be helping someone else with a whole new mod, that's set in 2003, for an area in the midwest USA.

On 10/5/2022 at 3:55 AM, miles451 said:

This picture might be somewhat helpful, I haven't found any other information on Adams ambulances but the picture is dated 1984.

https://lacaa.net/about/ This is the website it came from, it might also be helpful but that was the only photo it had for the 80s-90s timeframe.

It also has some photos of the Cadillac style ambulances that made it into the late 70s and early 80s.

https://aaoc.net/about-us/ couple of good pictures here including a what looks to be a CARE Ford E-series with a larger box. (Although orange county is probably out of the way for this mod)

I will be looking into these, thank you. I might try more CARE rigs, but I can't do the other ambulance companies without complete pictures of all sides of the vehicle.

On 10/7/2022 at 9:18 PM, KV-1 said:

Awesome! Glad you are adding some tankers in. Any chance you can make the Kenny or the Mack too? I can get you some more pictures of the Mack if you want and Kenworth as well.

Unfortunately I won't be making those until a high resolution, complete set of pictures are provided for all sides of the vehicle. I'd also need to find pictures of the cabs as civilian form before I can make the fire apparatus variant.

On 10/8/2022 at 7:36 AM, miles451 said:

I've been debating on posting these photos since you said previously a telesqurt wouldn't be added due to MP concerns, this one could probably be scripted like any other ladder truck, and would be a good addition to the other 200 series engines.

Send as many pictures as you can, regardless. I am sure people coming across this thread on google would find the history to be very useful.

Another reason I don't want to do the telesquirts is due to a lack of information on how to animate and configure these models. I'd need to model every hose, every hydraulic arm, and also the fact that making these ingame is a pain in the ass.

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I'd also like to announce that I am back to making civilian vehicles. Hopefully I will achieve my target goals and have enough vehicles to go around.

[KV-1]

10 hours ago, itchboy said:

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I have changed course on that. Instead of making a 2000's LA mod, I will be helping someone else with a whole new mod, that's set in 2003, for an area in the midwest USA.

I will be looking into these, thank you. I might try more CARE rigs, but I can't do the other ambulance companies without complete pictures of all sides of the vehicle.

Unfortunately I won't be making those until a high resolution, complete set of pictures are provided for all sides of the vehicle. I'd also need to find pictures of the cabs as civilian form before I can make the fire apparatus variant.

Send as many pictures as you can, regardless. I am sure people coming across this thread on google would find the history to be very useful.

Another reason I don't want to do the telesquirts is due to a lack of information on how to animate and configure these models. I'd need to model every hose, every hydraulic arm, and also the fact that making these ingame is a pain in the ass.

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Righto, thanks! The mack is a 45u and the kenworth is a 50s bullnose, that's about all I can get down, good luck with the other tankers!

[miles451]

I have a couple of pictures of more unique crown engines and a Thibault rig, I may have already posted this video link in the past but I'm not quite sure. A good walk around of one of the Thibaults with a cab. From what I can gather the maxim ladders were refitted to these rigs after the originals developed cracks.