ck4life_tweets Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 For some reason my Emergency 4 keeps crashing after I try to play it, I've never had this problem before. Mods:Mayberry Mod v1.4.1West Coast Canada Modification This doesn't happen when I first start the game, It just happens after a few minutes, even if I haven't started a world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Can you upload your logfile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Here is my logfile and DXdiag. logfile.txtDxDiag.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Everything appears to have loaded fine but that makes sense seeing that you can play for a few minutes before crashing. I can't see any errors anywhere that can help but if someone else takes a look they may find something I missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 aww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Can I just check, have you tried running as Administrator? If that doesn't work, try re-installing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 when I right click I don't see a option to run as admin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 What windows version are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 windows 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 All I see is:OpenPrintRestore previous VersionsSend toCut Copycreate shortcutDeleteRenameProperties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 All I see is:OpenPrintRestore previous VersionsSend toCut Copycreate shortcutDeleteRenamePropertiesI think for windows 7 you have to do it on the actual application, not the shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I re -installed and now it works fine! But how do I get the actual application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Great that it is now working. I find re-installing works most of the time with a lot of problems. The actual application is *YourEM4Folder*/Em4.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Now it crashes every several minutes again after the game crashed yesterday after a huge fire. Even re-installing didn't fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottyscotty Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Have you tried running as admin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Looking @ your logfile my best guess is that you're running out of resources thus the game is terminating unexpectedly.. The question since I see you've got two mods installed, likely you're using the Canadian one during that logfile is this: Does the game behave the same way with lighter/easier load mods like the original LA mod, does it behave the same way with the original default game? If you are experiencing crashes after X minutes with everything, even the default game then you probably need to reduce the game settings further. If it is with specific mods, they are likely unoptimized and are causing memory consumption to be irregularly high, or have something causing a memory leak. Try the original Default game or a lighter/known to be stable mod and see how long it permits play for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Looking @ your logfile my best guess is that you're running out of resources thus the game is terminating unexpectedly.. The question since I see you've got two mods installed, likely you're using the Canadian one during that logfile is this: Does the game behave the same way with lighter/easier load mods like the original LA mod, does it behave the same way with the original default game? If you are experiencing crashes after X minutes with everything, even the default game then you probably need to reduce the game settings further. If it is with specific mods, they are likely unoptimized and are causing memory consumption to be irregularly high, or have something causing a memory leak. Try the original Default game or a lighter/known to be stable mod and see how long it permits play for you. But I have quite a bit of memory. But i'll try lowering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Have you tried running as admin?Okay I will try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 It still crashes after lowering my graphicsIt also still crashes after running as admin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted July 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 As I asked before have you tried running the default game or something like Hoopah's LA mod (unaltered) to see if it still crashes after a specific duration. Your comp has an integrated chipset (amd). I had a similar chipset on one of my laptops and it ran the game, albeit lighting was prone to causing lag. Until you have either tried the default game and/or LA mod or similar low-demand spec mod I cannot speak further for your situation. Looking @ your DX diag your machine has a total of 6 gigs ram, of which roughly 5.6 is available for the os to start with, your video card "dedicated" memory is the missing portion of the 6 gigs... Your OS will consume around 1 gig it's self just for the normal operation of the system at a minimum. Leaving around 4.6 gigs +/- for programs/operations.. But realize your video card has the ability to consume more of the physical memory if it is similar to the AMD chipset I had previously, so it is possible it is consuming more memory for the video card than the "dedicated" 500 mb or so it takes off the bat. Whatever is left after that, would be around (ballparking) 3 gigs can go to the video card, 1 gig for the system run, leaving 2 gigs for the game and other applications to run on if the video card chews all that it can. Make sure that when trying to play the game you shut down any anti-viruses you have running on your machine, some of them will try to check the game as it runs (because it runs scripts) and that can cause excessive resource consumption. But ultimately, the computer is not ideal for gaming, so try the things I've suggested above before I can even consider any other alternatives you may try. Obviously, make sure the computer is set to "high performance" for it's power setting and not power saver or balanced as they will reduce the available power to the machine. Moderator note:Don't double post like that please, you asked yesterday and did not really need to ask any help today... One day is not really enough to call a topic missed by people, and while I understand that you really want help to get this resolved, it really isnt appropriate to double post on this forum, especially when such a small time has passed since you've last posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 In regards to it crashing on default game, Yes, it crashed after exactly 2 minutes and 5 seconds from the start of the application. And to my surprise, Mayberry Mod didn't crash.And for the Los Angeles mod, it crashed after 3 minutes, 24 seconds.However the second time I tried the Mayberry Mod, it crashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 What I would like you to do is this:Delete the logfile.Load the game:Play Mayberry mod 'till crash. (log the estimated time it ran before crash)Cut logfile and paste to desktop, rename it mayberry crash log.Load game again:Play LA mod 'till crash. (log the estimated time it ran before crash)Cut logfile and paste to desktop, rename it LA crash log.Load game again:Play default game (no mod) 'till crash (log the estimated time it ran before crash)Cut logfile and paste to desktop, rename it default crash log. Once that is done post them here and I will look at them independently to see what the common problems are (if applicable). From my perspective it sounds like the computer is running out of resources, which the game is known to have a memory bleed (remember memory bleed doesnt just mean physical ram alone). When I say running out of resources it can mean the GPU is being overtaxed, the CPUs, or the Ram. Once I see your logfiles from those scenarios I've asked for above I can try to give you a few more possible things to try that may make a difference. I had a similar setup to yours and mine was stable with the game, albeit with some lag when the lights got excessive so there is probably a way to get it to work with some stability on yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck4life_tweets Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Mayberry crashed after 8 minutes LA mod crashed after 3 minutes 25 seconds [Crased right after loading again]Default game crashed after 1 minute 6 seconds. [Crashed right after loading again]LA mod crash.txtMayberry crash.txtDefault game crash.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 In all three instances it's abruptly terminating, ironically both mods are making it further than the default did, with far more usage for both of those before it went kaput.So that part of it is strange to me.. You can check under the amd catalyst control panel and see if you can change the settings to override the application's defaults, force it to use settings which you choose via the amd control panel may increase stability... The other option for you to attempt to do is to run the game on one core:http://forum.emergency-planet.com/topic/9704-how-to-run-the-game-on-one-core/Some people say this increases stability, but I've never had to do it myself. Guess it depends on the particulars of the processor unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
