itchboy Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Very very nice, keep up the good work. p.s. a 2014 and 2006 Dodge Charger to scale with the rest of the civil cars would be a great addition (the one in most mods currently is too small in comparison and looks weak haha)Ive already made an HD texture for the LA Mod Charger. I think it would need to be scaled up to complete the 2006 Charger. As for the 2014 one, I don't think it would be possible to recreate it because its shape is different from the 2006 model. Someone would have to get the Charger from the Montana Mod.Also, I plan on releasing separately a few cars with complete interiors to be used as bases for emergency vehicles.So far, I've done the Ford Expedition - the Explorer's bigger; more expensive, nicer looking big brother because I was already working on reducing its polygons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Ive already made an HD texture for the LA Mod Charger. I think it would need to be scaled up to complete the 2006 Charger. As for the 2014 one, I don't think it would be possible to recreate it because its shape is different from the 2006 model. Someone would have to get the Charger from the Montana Mod.Also, I plan on releasing separately a few cars with complete interiors to be used as bases for emergency vehicles.So far, I've done the Ford Expedition - the Explorer's bigger; more expensive, nicer looking big brother because I was already working on reducing its polygons. Yeah just make sure the charger is to the same scale because they're like standard em4 size in most cases, which looks pretty lame compared to the crown vics etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 How does one determine distance in the game? How does one tell that a CVPI is the one and true scale for the game? Does the game have some kind of measurement of distance? Perhaps the editor grid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The problem is that every mod uses different scaling, but as a general rule you use a constant in the game IE a fire engine or an ambulance, from the mod that you intend to replace, I prefer ambulances because they have a standard cab from some real-world vehicle, that vehicle's scale (assuming it is correct) will correlate to any and all traffic vehicles you add into the game. The reality most people forget about is that perspective applies even in real life to a vehicle, so while it doesnt seem right sometimes the size of a vehicle is massively different than you think by seeing it. 2006 Dodge ChargerLength:200.1 InchesWidth: 74.5 InchesHeight: 58.2 Inches 2006 Ford Crown Victoria:L: 212 InchesW: 78.3 InchesH: 65.6 Inches As you can see a Vic is larger than a charger in every possible way, but most people by the look/stance of a charger assume it is larger than a crown victoria, in reality it is not. The problem lies in the percieved appearance of a car making your mind believe things that factually don't happen. So you have to google the dimensions of the particular car vs a car you've gotten scaled correctly, and adjust accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 The problem is that every mod uses different scaling, but as a general rule you use a constant in the game IE a fire engine or an ambulance, from the mod that you intend to replace, I prefer ambulances because they have a standard cab from some real-world vehicle, that vehicle's scale (assuming it is correct) will correlate to any and all traffic vehicles you add into the game. The reality most people forget about is that perspective applies even in real life to a vehicle, so while it doesnt seem right sometimes the size of a vehicle is massively different than you think by seeing it. 2006 Dodge ChargerLength:200.1 InchesWidth: 74.5 InchesHeight: 58.2 Inches 2006 Ford Crown Victoria:L: 212 InchesW: 78.3 InchesH: 65.6 Inches As you can see a Vic is larger than a charger in every possible way, but most people by the look/stance of a charger assume it is larger than a crown victoria, in reality it is not. The problem lies in the percieved appearance of a car making your mind believe things that factually don't happen. So you have to google the dimensions of the particular car vs a car you've gotten scaled correctly, and adjust accordingly. Yep I'm also a big fan of keeping everything to scale, I'm aware the charger is no way near as big as the crown vic, but it's still bigger than most people have made it - Nnico's crown vic and impala have been rolled out as stock across the mods but the dodge has stayed to a similar scale as the LA mod, which used a smaller scale, so in essence it's a scale down thats all I was getting at would just be nice to see a dodge done with the correct scale to other units common in mods x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCEmergencyServices Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 I would like to use the caprice model and ford explore big brother and expedition in my custom la mod thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Sorry for the repeat post but some extra suggestions from me, just general trucks that would be useful in American mods > Image wont load but a garbage truck haha Just food for thought but I think vehicles like these would give a diverse city feel to a lot of mods x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyPI Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 the School bus is on my list =) 18 wheelers not so much since trailers are evil anyway and they can only really be parked everywhere, box trucks yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 the School bus is on my list =) 18 wheelers not so much since trailers are evil anyway and they can only really be parked everywhere, box trucks yes. I had them running on highways for a while, and main north to south style roads, just one big model no trailer logic but yeah I can understand the preference.But yep I think just general stuff like that would be an excellent starting point for a lot of people in terms of setting the scene and avoiding a few american units still in a german town and cars ahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yep I'm also a big fan of keeping everything to scale, I'm aware the charger is no way near as big as the crown vic, but it's still bigger than most people have made it -Nnico's crown vic and impala have been rolled out as stock across the mods but the dodge has stayed to a similar scale as the LA mod, which used a smaller scale, so in essence it's a scale down thats all I was getting at would just be nice to see a dodge done with the correct scale to other units common in mods xWell....this is a bit of an issue for me since I'm the first person here to do the new Taurus, Explorer and Caprice. Does this seem correct to you or should I pull out the files and modify them?At the moment, I am focusing on completely replacing the 32 civil cars. Trucks and busses would come at a later time. All this work is becoming quite a challenge doing it on my own. This is compounded by the fact that I have personally never seen most of these vehicles IRL, so I dont have a good idea of how they look apart from Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well. The CV is 212 inches long, the Taurus about 202, Caprice is 204 and the Utility is 196. From what I can see, the CV is the longest,a s it should be, BUT, the utility is too long. It should in theory be about a foot and a half shorter than the CV. The caprice and the Taurus look about the right length though, give or take an inch. But yeah, the utility is apparently only 196, I didn't believe it either, but it is. I work with a lot of these vehicles on a fairly regular basis, so if you need measurements, or just comparative viewings, shoot me a PM, and I'll see if I can't help you out along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well....this is a bit of an issue for me since I'm the first person here to do the new Taurus, Explorer and Caprice. Does this seem correct to you or should I pull out the files and modify them?At the moment, I am focusing on completely replacing the 32 civil cars. Trucks and busses would come at a later time. All this work is becoming quite a challenge doing it on my own. This is compounded by the fact that I have personally never seen most of these vehicles IRL, so I dont have a good idea of how they look apart from Google. That scale looks perfect, I'd love to see how the DC would fit into that scale and yeah you have pretty much done this solo, obviously if I were free and good enough at 3D modelling I'd lend a hand, but hopefully you'll get some help soon anyway keep it up, I'm awaiting updates with eagerness I've not felt since before I started modding! x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well. The CV is 212 inches long, the Taurus about 202, Caprice is 204 and the Utility is 196. From what I can see, the CV is the longest,a s it should be, BUT, the utility is too long. It should in theory be about a foot and a half shorter than the CV. The caprice and the Taurus look about the right length though, give or take an inch. But yeah, the utility is apparently only 196, I didn't believe it either, but it is. I work with a lot of these vehicles on a fairly regular basis, so if you need measurements, or just comparative viewings, shoot me a PM, and I'll see if I can't help you out along the waySo that's why the Explorer always seemed a bit too fat on the side. Im going to have to take down the download and put it back up again...Your a moderator right? Can you put the files up (including the Caprice) as soon as possible so that there is no inconvinience to modders who want to dowload the models?But, I just realized that the model has been downloaded by many people already and some major mods such as RCMP and Manhattan Mod use the model. I think it would be inconvinient for everybody if they had to change their lights and doors again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I am a mod and I can approve files. I generally tell people if they upload something and need it approved relatively quickly, as opposed to my daily file audits, shoot me a PM when you upload it, new conversations send me an email, so I can pop on usually within the hour if not sooner and fix it. As for the adjustment of lights and doors, although it may be a short pain, it'll make for a better looking mod in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Will PM you when its done.Anyway, I've already sent the Explorer to many other modding teams....I worry that this might bother them a bit, especially those that have already put lights on the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goog Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Here's what I based my scale on,it's 100 % accurate. 2013 utility is the biggest followed by the 2013 sedan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 goog...Are you going to change the scale of the Explorer in your mod or is it okay for your purposes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goog Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 For scale it was pretty close,I just adjusted the vehicle ride height on the utility and sedan version compared to the above pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Oh...Dyson...did you also change the Explorer?Anyway, here is the 2006 Charger next to the other three cars.Charger from LA ModAnd here's the 3 latest police cars side by sideCharger by bama1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FInn Rescue 12 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Models look great Itchboy. Is anyone working on the latest light bars. I know Cops and Bama, Raf ,Dyson, Goog have made some. It would be a shame to let these great Police models go without newer style ones. Just a suggestion out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 It would be cool if someone also gave out free to use lightbars and parts. It would be like a starter kit for mod developers. This civil car pack is also intended as that. It provides developers with a set of cars which can be used as traffic or ingame units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall8946 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I seriously about had a heart attack when I saw those trucks! Amazing job here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelmfernandez Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 It would be cool if someone also gave out free to use lightbars and parts. It would be like a starter kit for mod developers. This civil car pack is also intended as that. It provides developers with a set of cars which can be used as traffic or ingame units. I made a Vision SLR Lightbar that NYPD & FDNY Use. I might make some more as it was pretty simple and enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THVFD Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 i have a model that i took from one of helljumpers models he released i uv mapped it with a texture from manhattan mod with slight edits as long as the manhattan mod team dont care i'll gladly provide it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForceRD Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 don't forget the blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...