Xplorer4x4 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Friday, June 28 2013 @ 6:30AM. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM...short pause, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM(this time harder), very short pause, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. Not realizing what time it is, only knowing I want to sleep until the alarm goes off, I go to look out the window fixing to bite some idiot's head off. What do I see, Sheriff cruiser(CV). So I cock my head to the left, and what do I see, a Sheriff deputy. I go to take a leak and my girlfriend looks outside. She says those 3 little letters known as F..B..I...I look outside and see 2 agents. One sporting a classic Navy Blue tee with Gold lettering. The other wearing the classic tee with a (kevlar?) tac vest. I think to myself, "wait there is only one cruiser outside, where the f did they come from?" and so I look to the right. I see a total of 6 unmarked vehicles like a Toyota Camary, Nissan Xterra, Chrysler 200M, Ford Tarus(Interceptor?), Ford Explorer(Interceptor?), and one other I could not make out. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/Cf86M3k.jpg The wife was allowed to release the child to her mother(?)/child's grandmother. Then the search really started getting in to full swing. Josh, the husband/father was taken in to custody and transported by the Sheriff shortly after this. The FBI was here until about 10AM coming and going from the apartment to the undercover vehicles. The wife left shortly after the FBI did. Personally, I have my likes and dislikes of LEOs. As people I don't automatically dislike them. As LEOs, I don't automatically dislike them, but I dislike them when they are dick heads in general or dick heads about stupid laws and such. That said, I have the utmost respect the agents and sheriff involved for handling the situation calmly and getting the child out of the way. They shielding him from seeing his father go to jail, and that was a stand up thing to do. Especially given what the neighbouring SWAT team did in the past year in terms of a raid. So why was the FBI here? Well apparently Josh, who is a member of our armed forces(not sure what branch, National guard or National guard reserves most likely), was involved with child pornography. I am not sure exactly what his role was, but that doesn't matter much imo. I do hope for his kids sake, that he was not involving his own kid. So have you ever been woken up by a raid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
met police999 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Jeez that was mental were they breaking the door doen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Nope, not breaking it down just the Sheriff was about to beat the door down with his bare hand lol. My guess is they choose 6:30 AM because they knew they were dealing with a trained soldier who has had combat experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 As far as I know, all raids, at least here, are done when they suspect the person to be asleep or otherwise sedated. This isn't for just active threats, it's because of the reason that everyone is easier to get if they're with their pants down (literally and figuratively) as well as the fact there is a lower chance that civilians will be caught up should something unsavory unfold. Lunchtime, that'd be dangerous. Early morning, pfft, a fire can't get me out of bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I woke up to a hit and run suspect getting mauled by a K9 behind my garage right by my bed room window last summer, it was really scary because the German Shepard was the size of a wolf and the bark is the part that woke me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFDDIVE11 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Jeez would of never known those were FBI who knows the FBI could be behind me while in my mcdonalds line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmergencyFan97 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 So could the US Marshal Service, the CIA, the NSA, or any number of any other police organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I crapped myself on Friday night at about 23:00. I looked out of my kitchen window and there's a half illuminated floating face in my garden. When I turned round I could read the 'POLICE' on the back of his vest but the fact he was all in black holding a torch in his mouth meant that all I first saw was his face. He had a sniffer dog with him, seems like they'd raided next door and one of them had chucked something. The OC-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Don't know about England, but over in Canada it's pretty much accepted that when the cops, or designates are looking for something, you get out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 It's absolutely accepted and I was perfectly happy to let them do it, just made me jump! Â The OC-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Jeez would of never known those were FBI who knows the FBI could be behind me while in my mcdonalds line  Yeah, I thought it was odd seeing all those cars parked on my street since there is usually only a spattering of cars here and there. Had I not known FBI was here, I would have probably thought the neighbour on the corner where they parked was having a party the night before and people crashed over night. I tend to have a bit of road rage and makes me some times think one of these days I am gona end up yelling at the wrong idiot lol. As far as I know, all raids, at least here, are done when they suspect the person to be asleep or otherwise sedated. This isn't for just active threats, it's because of the reason that everyone is easier to get if they're with their pants down (literally and figuratively) as well as the fact there is a lower chance that civilians will be caught up should something unsavory unfold. Lunchtime, that'd be dangerous. Early morning, pfft, a fire can't get me out of bed.Not here. Last year a threat was posted against specific officers on topix.com. My memory is a bit rusty but I recall they traced the posting IP back to a house on the South Side which is generally considered the Ghetto here. SWAT conducted a full out raid in the late afternoon. They broke out windows to toss flash bangs, ripped the storm door off the hinges, the whole nine yards. Turns out a woman and her daughter(19 I think) lived there. They did not secure their wifi network, and so some one used the network, possibly from a smartphone, to post the threats from that IP/location. Turns out the woman and her mother were innocent, just ignorant. A few days latter in the afternoon they made another raid. I forgot if this was a beat the door down full force raid or a subtle knock on the door raid like what we had happened here. I think this turned out to be another failed raid. The chief and swat team got hella backlash for this.  I woke up to a hit and run suspect getting mauled by a K9 behind my garage right by my bed room window last summer, it was really scary because the German Shepard was the size of a wolf and the bark is the part that woke me up. Ha, I was in 8th grade. We TPed my buddys house as he was out of town for a hockey tournament. Walking home we saw a cop turn the corner about 3 blocks back. We took off running of course! Ran through the first backyard we found. Yeah..we came with in about a foot of a chained up German Shepard. I almost shit a brick!  I crapped myself on Friday night at about 23:00. I looked out of my kitchen window and there's a half illuminated floating face in my garden. When I turned round I could read the 'POLICE' on the back of his vest but the fact he was all in black holding a torch in his mouth meant that all I first saw was his face. He had a sniffer dog with him, seems like they'd raided next door and one of them had chucked something. The OC-D Was he on a leash or not?  Guess what? Chester, as I will call him now, made it out on bond that day. I wasn't sure until I saw him today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Ha, I was in 8th grade. We TPed my buddys house as he was out of town for a hockey tournament. Walking home we saw a cop turn the corner about 3 blocks back. We took off running of course! Ran through the first backyard we found. Yeah..we came with in about a foot of a chained up German Shepard. I almost shit a brick!Yeah and that was how i got to meet the Gloucester Police's new K9 Mako, after he woke me up and tore some druggy limb for limb. It was a good time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocd Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Was he on a leash or not? Yeah  The OC-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppah Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 So have you ever been woken up by a raid?  Today actually. I was sleeping really calm, dreaming about things I do not want to share. It felt like a good night for the first time in 10 months. Suddenly, the extremely loud air raid alarm woke me up. At first I was in panic. Did WW3 just start? Or did I wake up in 1940? I looked outside and saw no airplanes nor smoke or explosions, just some birds and cats that panicked too, and the lawn that hasn't been mown in 5 weeks. Wtf was going on? Then I realized it's the first monday of the month again, when the air raid alarm gets tested at 12 noon. Welcome to the Netherlands. After 5 minutes, my heartrate was down to a normal level again and I made some coffee to begin my vacation. Hoppah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
met police999 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 air raid siren? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Not here. Last year a threat was posted against specific officers on topix.com. My memory is a bit rusty but I recall they traced the posting IP back to a house on the South Side which is generally considered the Ghetto here. SWAT conducted a full out raid in the late afternoon. They broke out windows to toss flash bangs, ripped the storm door off the hinges, the whole nine yards. Turns out a woman and her daughter(19 I think) lived there. They did not secure their wifi network, and so some one used the network, possibly from a smartphone, to post the threats from that IP/location. Turns out the woman and her mother were innocent, just ignorant. A few days latter in the afternoon they made another raid. I forgot if this was a beat the door down full force raid or a subtle knock on the door raid like what we had happened here. I think this turned out to be another failed raid. The chief and swat team got hella backlash for this.Okay, I should've phrased better. Raids, I consider are something when they're going on a warrant, with no real active threat at the time. Obviously if a life or whatever is in danger, they won't care. I've been on quite a few Daytime calls because a life was in danger, but if they can, they tend to try to wait. air raid siren?A device used to alert the civil population to hide the hell out of sight, as there are planes coming over with the intention of killing the townsfolk and doing the utmost amount of damage one can. You never know when there might be another massive air raid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I guess I should have been more clear. Like I said things are a bit foggy, but I believe the raid was several days latter. Maybe they just got the address back from the ISP and got a warrant written up, then immediately executed the warrant. Whatever the delay was, if they had waited days already, and had the officers houses under surveillance, why not survey the suspects address? They had a specific person in mind for whatever reason. Had they surveyed the house maybe they could have realized the suspect did not live there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Air raid sirens, not to diss on Europe but I'm glad the continental US doesn't have them (never had and hopefully never will need them). We do however have tornado sirens which I think are a pretty American thing as well as some cities still use sirens to alert the VFDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999madtom Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 air raid siren?I live near a naval base in England and they have to test their nuke alarms (say if some radiation leaked not bomb's)Â three times a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 And the saga continues, while it was not a rude awakening, I heard some conversation going on outside, and since the sicko has no friends that I have seen, I glance out front and the US Marshals were here to pick up the neighbour. Any idea why he would be out on bail the same day(Friday) and be picked up by the Marshals on Wednesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theparanoid Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 And the saga continues, while it was not a rude awakening, I heard some conversation going on outside, and since the sicko has no friends that I have seen, I glance out front and the US Marshals were here to pick up the neighbour. Any idea why he would be out on bail the same day(Friday) and be picked up by the Marshals on Wednesday?He might been release on bail but with the restrict that he had to remain at home. He might have a court date. So the Marshals may been buy to pick him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer4x4 Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 He might been release on bail but with the restrict that he had to remain at home. He might have a court date. So the Marshals may been buy to pick him up. Well he wasn’t on house arrest because I know he has left since Friday. Plus, what I assume is his mom and dad, were here for a short time tonight, and to my knowledge he has not been home since. His wife was also here for a short time to, and its my understanding she has left him. She certainly seems like she refuses to be here when he is here. She told him if he ver got busted for this crap again she would leave him. Plus one of the Marshals vehicles was parked haphazard while the rest were parked normal. Well wrong side of the street but other wise normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoyne Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Suppose I'll share my story (well, not quite mine)  My brother goes to college at UMD (UMass Dartmouth) You can see where this is going...right? Anyways...about a week or so after the Boston Marathon bombings, he woke up to the fire alarm in his building going off...he figured it was a routine fire alarm...then he notes the abnormally LARGE number of police/SWAT/National Guard/FBI vehicles/personnel when he gets outside...turns out one of the bombers (Jahar) lived in his dorm...so the police, taking no chances on any further explosives...etc, were evacuating his dorm. The story only gets better....first off he lived down the hall from my brother, secondly... my brother KNEW him...he was the roommate of a friend....so he was ultimately a bit creeped out by this whole revelation.  (The roommate was ultimately moved and the room is now abandoned, and appears it will not see use anytime soon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundking Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 I would presume that the Marshals was there for something related to his case. Duh, right?  I'm gonna say he was either A. being checked up on, B. being taken somewhere under protection/guarding, or C, he was caught doing something he wasn't allowed to be at, like being on the internet. Seriously, that's a thing. Guy here got busted for kiddie porn, and isn't allowed on the internet or on any devices that have internet access for the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmergencyFan97 Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 I would die if I couldn't get on the internet. Â Either die, or become a recluse and live in the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...