Fred03 Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squad 65 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 43 minutes ago, itchboy said: It is with great displeasure that I have to announce my departure from the Emergency 4 modding community as a whole. Montana mod will still be released - it is still being worked on by Bama1234. He has taken back possession of the mod and will be its' sole caretaker until it is complete, Recent events involving the unauthorized monetization of my content have led me to this decision. The other day, I found that a Cities Skylines modder ran a Patreon page that advertised conversions on "early access" for his/her Patrons. Money is being exchanged for access to this content. Among the content is a model that looks to be my and Yankee43's 2020 Ford Explorer model. You can also see the USFS truck from the Los Angeles Mod in this photo. https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/3/eyJwIjoxfQ%3D%3D/patreon-media/p/post/33447004/cbfbe0e4baf24d2f843b12f938e09bd0/1.png?token-time=1583539200&token-hash=uafJXCLMo_MgZJdtGEMS5ZRfU5ZAz6NDsA9UDYU55mo%3D&fbclid=IwAR32yIbkb5-1o5BU4o1KYVrWwBuagQ9GX5E8SKsCLwfzqgql2crYkP54LXk This picture helped me identify the model as being mine, due to the distortions in UV mapping that match my style. https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/3/eyJwIjoxfQ%3D%3D/patreon-media/p/post/32785632/0b8b60be0d1542a0a5e91c0595038b04/1.jpg?token-time=1583625600&token-hash=D1bu6d8K4DVFC29XDnwP1mtJCjtAMECitiQlm2tKPtM%3D DO NOT SEND HARASSMENT OR HATE TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. If you do, you are considered dead to me. They deserve due process and privacy as much as I do. Patreon's support has been less than helpful, and there is no way for me to make a 100% conclusive identification due to this mod author's act of locking models. As the accuser, I need to have proof of my allegations, however I am unable to do that because all I have are low resolution pictures. In order to make a full confirmation, I need to open the model and compare its shape and form with mine. I also need to see the textures and UV mapping templates because these are things that are unique to the person who made the model. Its a paradox: the only way to access those files is to pay this individual for my own content. Unbelievable. Now, even if that were to be achieved, I would have to overcome the model locking in order to make a wireframe comparison in 3D software. So far, my attempts and that of other users have been unsuccessful, but we will see, maybe another solution can be found. Another big problem is that the model itself is not uploaded on Patreon, but on Steam. Patreon only has the pictures of the content and cannot enforce this guy from uploading it to Steam. There's nothing I can do while this individual profits from our work. I have fallen into a gray area and none of the competent authorities are willing to address my issue. There is no solution for me to have the content taken down and the user be held accountable for making money from content that was made by me and another person. We worked very hard to create that vehicle and it is absolutely heinous that someone is making money from work that they did not do. Also, there is nothing stopping this person, or any individual from monetizing the work of other Emergency 4 modders. This is a new issue that everyone should be aware of when releasing content here. I did not mod Emergency 4 in order to become someone else's slave. I have found that the system does not favor creators but only those with power, influence and money. And so with that in mind, I have decided that I have better things to do then get screwed over again and again by every authority that's supposed to "stand for me". I shall retain the moderator position here and will be manually approving all accounts registered to here. I will also still be on the lookout for instances of content misuse on this site. I will post updates on another thread regarding what's going on but for now, goodbye. Such a shame itchboy. Expected more things from you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexCNP Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Yeah. Completely a shame. Those of us who mod for EM4 know how tedious is all the work around a single model. And taking advantage of other people work is... well, I know what it is. But I understand you. So good luck with your other projects... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bingtarget Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Itch, this is such sad news. I hope you can get your content back. This is nothing short of robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyram7 Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 19 hours ago, itchboy said: It is with great displeasure that I have to announce my departure from the Emergency 4 modding community as a whole. Montana mod will still be released - it is still being worked on by Bama1234. He has taken back possession of the mod and will be its' sole caretaker until it is complete, Recent events involving the unauthorized monetization of my content have led me to this decision. The other day, I found that a Cities Skylines modder ran a Patreon page that advertised conversions on "early access" for his/her Patrons. Money is being exchanged for access to this content. Among the content is a model that looks to be my and Yankee43's 2020 Ford Explorer model. You can also see the USFS truck from the Los Angeles Mod in this photo. https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/3/eyJwIjoxfQ%3D%3D/patreon-media/p/post/33447004/cbfbe0e4baf24d2f843b12f938e09bd0/1.png?token-time=1583539200&token-hash=uafJXCLMo_MgZJdtGEMS5ZRfU5ZAz6NDsA9UDYU55mo%3D&fbclid=IwAR32yIbkb5-1o5BU4o1KYVrWwBuagQ9GX5E8SKsCLwfzqgql2crYkP54LXk This picture helped me identify the model as being mine, due to the distortions in UV mapping that match my style. https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/3/eyJwIjoxfQ%3D%3D/patreon-media/p/post/32785632/0b8b60be0d1542a0a5e91c0595038b04/1.jpg?token-time=1583625600&token-hash=D1bu6d8K4DVFC29XDnwP1mtJCjtAMECitiQlm2tKPtM%3D DO NOT SEND HARASSMENT OR HATE TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. If you do, you will be banned for bullying and harassment. They deserve due process and privacy as much as I do. Patreon's support has been less than helpful, and there is no way for me to make a 100% conclusive identification due to this mod author's act of locking models. As the accuser, I need to have proof of my allegations, however I am unable to do that because all I have are low resolution pictures. In order to make a full confirmation, I need to open the model and compare its shape and form with mine. I also need to see the textures and UV mapping templates because these are things that are unique to the person who made the model. Its a paradox: the only way to access those files is to pay this individual for my own content. Unbelievable. Now, even if that were to be achieved, I would have to overcome the model locking in order to make a wireframe comparison in 3D software. So far, my attempts and that of other users have been unsuccessful, but we will see, maybe another solution can be found. Another big problem is that the model itself is not uploaded on Patreon, but on Steam. Patreon only has the pictures of the content and cannot enforce this guy from uploading it to Steam. There's nothing I can do while this individual profits from our work. I have fallen into a gray area and none of the competent authorities are willing to address my issue. There is no solution for me to have the content taken down and the user be held accountable for making money from content that was made by me and another person. We worked very hard to create that vehicle and it is absolutely heinous that someone is making money from work that they did not do. Also, there is nothing stopping this person, or any individual from monetizing the work of other Emergency 4 modders. This is a new issue that everyone should be aware of when releasing content here. I did not mod Emergency 4 in order to become someone else's slave. I have found that the system does not favor creators but only those with power, influence and money. And so with that in mind, I have decided that I have better things to do then get screwed over again and again by every authority that's supposed to "stand for me". I shall retain the moderator position here and will be manually approving all accounts registered to here. I will also still be on the lookout for instances of content misuse on this site. I will post updates on another thread regarding what's going on but for now, goodbye. This is a shame, I am a big fan of your work and I think it's awful that things have come to this. I've been following his vehicles for a while on the steam workshop for CS, and you can check if any of the models on there matches your own property or someone you know; just a suggestion, I'd assume he uses the same models for a lot of his vehicles. I always wondered if he really made his models, I guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I do not have much of a forum presence anymore, but this is an exception. Thank you for all the time you've put into modding this game itchboy. The majority of the community appreciates you and all the work you have done for it. There are so many of your accomplishments to pick from but most notably the American Civilian Car Pack, the Fire Truck Cab Pack, and some of the newer police vehicles are valuable assets to new and veteran modders alike. You brought new life into a previously dying community, and that took skill and determination. It is despicable that someone would re-upload content that isn't theirs, let alone charge people for content that they did not make themselves. Everyone in this community respects you itchboy and also respects your decision, but it is sad to see another one of the greats go. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee43 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Aether said: I do not have much of a forum presence anymore, but this is an exception. Thank you for all the time you've put into modding this game itchboy. The majority of the community appreciates you and all the work you have done for it. There are so many of your accomplishments to pick from but most notably the American Civilian Car Pack, the Fire Truck Cab Pack, and some of the newer police vehicles are valuable assets to new and veteran modders alike. You brought new life into a previously dying community, and that took skill and determination. It is despicable that someone would re-upload content that isn't theirs, let alone charge people for content that they did not make themselves. Everyone in this community respects you itchboy and also respects your decision, but it is sad to see another one of the greats go. Sums it up exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmC-Unit Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I am 100% shure, that some of the site members or discord are supporting that guy with donations input. SO the best thing you can do to support itchboy - cancell your money support on the thieft. (also would be nice if you spread the word between your friends and tell them to do the same) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunswat Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Will there be bears in the mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker15x Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Thanks for all your hard work itchboy. I hope to see you back here someday in the near future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred03 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Sad to see you go, understand why you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrone Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Sad to hear that this has happened more then once to you Itchboy. Your work is amazing and I can only imagine how hard it is to make this mods. Hopefully you get somewhere with getting your models back and good luck with what ever you decide to put your time towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goog Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 every unit in the picture appears to be from the Downloads section and Hoppah's LA mod!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchboy Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 9 hours ago, goog said: every unit in the picture appears to be from the Downloads section and Hoppah's LA mod!!! All the fire engines in that picture are legitimate, except for the USFS cab. The F250 and Fusion are models that person purchased. I suspect the Expedition is my converted model but I am not too upset about a converted model. I am now 100% sure the Explorer in there is mine. Maybe I'll have a stronger case if I report this guy for also re-selling purchased models from Turbosquid? Its sad that this guy knows how to model really well, its just that they chose the lazy route and took my stuff. smh Montana Mod progress is not halted even if I'm not going to post about it anymore. It will be down to Bama and anyone willing to help push the project through. I have done my part for the scripts. I am especially proud of the pond drafting, ground ladder, roof venting and engine relay scripts. I can only hope they will be treated with respect by the community and not copied into other mods without my and bama's permission. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneIowan Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Mod theft has been around for years and years and years. Awful of them to start selling the models though. Appreciate the update and it will surely still be interesting and fun to watch MT Mod be developed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker15x Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Itchboy, I hope you'll still be on the credits while in the in game mods menu. Hope you will come back in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr matt5432123 Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 really sad to hear about this man, I know how over the years things similar to this have been a problem though so it's 100% understandable to make your decision. Thanks for all the help and content you offered over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoyin de chn Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 Seems like its kind of commom problem for all mod creator around the world .Well,as a Chinese em4 player,same thing had happened to us,about a year ago,there was a anchor fromKUAI SHOU (sth is similar to TIK TOK).Had steal two mods about China,Which were relased for free. and then sold them (YES,the whole mod),and declared that he is the creator of those two mods .Unfortunatelly there were some noob bought his word.However this man get away with any pounishment at thant moment（Recently, his KUAISHOU account had been baned,HOWEVER,hi sitll could reach others by qq(a chat app)）. BTW, I dont konw if any of you guys still remeber the Chiense mod project:wzc mod,it is still WIP and now on alpha 3.0 test,Im not creator so I wont give any image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xazdkr Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 RIP Montana Mod 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bama1234 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 2:35 PM, xazdkr said: RIP Montana Mod Mod's not dead. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xazdkr Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 12 hours ago, bama1234 said: Mod's not dead. Considering this is your first comment in 3 months, you'll have to understand my doubt. You dropped off the project a while ago. Now itchboy has dropped off and you're back suddenly. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squad 65 Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 As said before this is Bama's project. Itch took over and made it better than after this whole shabang its now Bamas again. You have to think alot of us modders have lifes we cant just mod 24/7. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whunterq94 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 11:33 AM, xazdkr said: Considering this is your first comment in 3 months, you'll have to understand my doubt. You dropped off the project a while ago. Now itchboy has dropped off and you're back suddenly. Modding isn't the easiest thing to do and it takes time. We should be supporting creators not chastising them for not posting on here. Just because they don't post dosen't mean that they're not working on the mod. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill12 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I’m just so excited for this Mod ahhhh I heard so many things about it make me so hyped ahhh the suspense lol XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill12 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 I am curious cause of all the good things I’ve heard about this mod what’s the most difficult aspect of this particular mod, the scripts I’m assuming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
