Kookas Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Status: Initial DevelopmentKEY: Planned In Progress Finished--- Police Vehicles ---Sector Cars--Vauxhall Astra | PhotoRenault Espace | PhotoFord Focus 90PS Peugeot 307 Estate Dog Patrol | PhotoSkoda OctaviaPublic Order Vehicles--Iveco Daily LWB High Roof | PhotoArmed Response Vehicles--Unmarked Audi A6 Estate & Saloon | Estate Photo - Saloon PhotoLand Rover Defender ARV (borrowed from Staffordshire Police) | Photo Traffic Cars--Unmarked BMW 330i | PhotoBMW 330i Touring | PhotographVolvo S60 | PhotographJaguar XF | PhotoRange Rover SE Sector Cell Vans--LDV Maxus | PhotographPeugeot Expert Police Van (new) | PhotoPeugeot Expert Police Van (old) | PhotoWest Midlands Police "G-WMAO" Eurocopter EC-135P-2 | PhotoTwo-WheeledGeneric Bicycle | PhotoBMW R1150RT Motorbike | Photo--- HM Services ---Royal Logistics Corps Bomb Disposal Truck | Photo--- West Midlands Ambulance Service and St. John Ambulance ---Two-WheeledGeneric Bicycle | PhotoHonda Motorbike | PhotoRapid Response VehiclesVauxhall Vectra (Emergency Physician)Honda CR-V | PhotoVolvo XC70 | PhotoGround AmbulancesVauxhall Movano | PhotoRenault Master | PhotoSt. John's Ambulance | PhotoHART Nissan Terrano 4x4 | PhotoIveco DailiesHART IRU Central Operations Vehicle | PhotoHART IRU Equipment Transport Vehicle | PhotoHART IRU Personnel Transport Vehicle | PhotoHART IRU Chemical Operations Vehicle | PhotoCounty Air Ambulance"G-WMAS" Eurocopter EC-135T-2 | PhotoLand Rover Discovery Support Vehicle | Photo--- West Midlands Fire Service ---Pump Rescue LaddersDennis Sabre XL | PhotoDennis Sabre XL (JDC body) | PhotoDennis Sabre XL (Older) | PhotoMAN M2000 | PhotoOthersMAN M2000 Water Tower | PhotoVauxhall Brava Pickup Equipment Vehicle | PhotoUSAR MAN TGA Prime Mover | PhotoERF Hydraulic Platform | PhotoMAN Incident Support UnitIveco Command UnitBremach Angloco 4x4 Targeted Response Vehicle--- Highways Agency (engineers) & friends ---Highways Agency Range Rover SE | PhotoHighways Agency Mitsubishi Shogun | PhotoAutomobile Association Renault Premium Distribution Rollback Truck | PhotoRAC VanGeneric SCANIA Hiab CraneSIEMENS Highway Maintenance Van------------------Roof codes:- Filled black circle: road policing unit- 5-point Asterisk (*): armed response vehicle- Filled triangle: dog unitPersonnel:PoliceTraffic/Standard Officer- can break down doors- most common- carries no firearms- drives "panda cars"Authorised Firearms Officer- can break down doors- carries a H&K sub-machine gun and a taser- bullet-resistant/protective clothing- wears a cap- ARVsPublic Order Police- can break down doors- can carry either a light round shield or a heavier "classic" shield (former allows for faster movement but less protection)- wears fire-resistant clothing and helmet with a visor- wears a high visibility jacket- vans with windscreen coversRaid Police- can break down doors- can carry normal shields- wears protective gear (including helmet and visor)- vans with windscreen coversSpecialist Firearms Officers- can break down doors- for things like raids requiring firearmsRoyal Logistics CorpsBomb Bot- can disarm and remove bombs from a scene. Travels in the RLC truck. Hopefully, I will be able to get this to not count as a casualty if it does end up in pieces.Ammunitions Technician/Bomb Disposal Expert- can also disarm and remove bombs from a scene, and also travels in the RLC truck.West Midlands Ambulance ServiceParamedic- rides in ambulances- dark green clothes- medical kit is a large dark green "cuboidal" bag- can carry a yellow stretcherEmergency Care Practitioner- rides in Rapid Response Vehicles- dark green clothesEmergency Physician- rides in Rapid Response Vehicles- dark green clothesHART Emergency Technician- rides in HARTmobiles- can wear SCBA or HAZMAT gearWest Midlands Fire ServiceFirefighter- the standard firefighter- can wear breathing apparatus, water rescue gear, or green HAZMAT gearWatch Manager- one per group of firemen- is the leader of the group- manages them (possibly with action "macros")Highways AgencyTraffic Officer- can direct traffic, leaving free police units- cannot arrest - only involved in traffic incidents and maintenance- doesn't drive fast or have priority in trafficRoadworks Engineer- can repair broken things such as traffic lights.- rides in the highways maintenance van- can place signs (divert route?)Mechanics Engineer- can repair civil service vehicles- can ride in the RAC van or the AA rollbackFanbannersPolice and Ambulance:[url="http://forum.emergency-planet.com/index.php?showtopic=10215&st=0"][img=http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8741/wmmcox.png][/url]Fire:[url="http://forum.emergency-planet.com/index.php?showtopic=10215&st=0"][img=http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8452/wmmcobrigade.png][/url]Kudos to icychopstix, westmidsfireman, and Scrivs for their help in giving me information about WMFS & WMAS. Thanks to them, I will be able to make this mod more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'm from the west Midlands!Good start and good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'm from the west Midlands!Good start and good luck! Thanks! Oh, by the way, any photos of Vectras from the top would be great, if you can find some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmC-Unit Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Yeach nice startHope you'll finish itGood luck you with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson139 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Good luck. And nice start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 All of a sudden there are loads of British mods. It's great! Shame not many are out yet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 What is a good maximum poly-count? Mine's already 204 polygons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkboy714 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hi, I'm also from West Midlands.It's great if you do this. Good luck!I don't know any mod skills (yet) but I will help if I canEdit: already 204? Then you will have good models. I have no idea what is a good amount but high means good models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 But higher-poly will generally mean more lag, especially if you're going to have lots of them. I don't really know. Updated images in original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tian318 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 2.000 to 4.000 polygons is a bit average as i understood it.SO anything in that range would be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 But higher-poly will generally mean more lag, especially if you're going to have lots of them. I don't really know. Updated images in original post.4000 is maximum in EM4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Updated images in original post.It looks great, looking forward to seeing the finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson139 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 It looks good so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks for your kind words 4000 is maximum in EM4.Maximum total polygons being rendered in-game at any one time (doubt it, that's a very low number for that, but just want to be sure) or maximum for a model? I know I can keep one model under 4000. 4000 is very high for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius7dk Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks for your kind words Maximum total polygons being rendered in-game at any one time (doubt it, that's a very low number for that, but just want to be sure) or maximum for a model? I know I can keep one model under 4000. 4000 is very high for me!From reading the various threads about models, I am quite sure it is per model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 From reading the various threads about models, I am quite sure it is per model That's good. It's not really going to have an interior, seeing as it doesn't really need one. It might have an opening trunk and door but that would just be a matter of about 20 polygons or so. I leave you with a picture of a roofless Vauxhall Vectra, then (first post). Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to work on it until Friday or maybe even Saturday, but I won't have much left to do .. UV mapping, creating some simple lightbar meshes .. then the mesh aspect of the Vectra will be complete. It would be nice if some people could help, because I don't think I'd be able to map very well. Maybe make a landscape, but beyond that ... well, we'll see how it goes. Goodnight everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASTIAN Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Kookas, good start and many luck for you! 402 Polys are nothing...Rampage, 4000 polys are wrong!You can model how ever you will, in one screen can gives 140.000 polys/ game.Many 3D-Modeler of german community have over 4000 polygons/ model (cars), sometimes 10.000 on a fire truck or ambulance - that is for me to high. it is to crazy for my hardware/ fraps.Question at all british guys:Would produce the Vauxhall in Liverpool? I have read the word "Vauxhall" near the Mersey in Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I think there is a plant in Merseyside, you might have only seen a dealership or an advert though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looneyboy714 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Glad to see a west midlands mod finally, any chance my hometown of solihull might be included? lol any help you want just ask im pretty good at skinning and lights, and did the em3 version of west midlands modJames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkboy714 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Your Vectra looks great and accurate so far. About the roof, I couldn't find a very good picture, but it is basically just a curved surface with a lightbar on. Nothing unusual, you could probably do it without pictures.Around here, the police use a lot of Vauxhall Astra's like these. There's also different cars for traffic, ARV, etc.Great work so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 The car looks great! Now the model's nearly done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Birmingham is in the West Midlands, so I know all this already If you have anything to correct about the following, please do not hesitate to point it out, before I end up making something that shouldn't even be in the mod. Thanks!POSSIBLE VEHICLES OF WMM--- Police Vehicles ---Vauxhall Astra - marked, blue grille lights, headlight wig-wags, blue rotating lights on top - by far the most common patrol car of the West Midlands Police.Vauxhall Vectra - marked, blue grille lights, headlight wig-wags, blue rotating lights on top - these are probably dispatched specifically.Ford Transit Community Police - light grey/silver and marked, blue grille lights, two sets of blue rotating lights on top - this is for community-related police stuff.Ford Transit Riot Police - marked, blue grille lights, two sets of rotating lights on top protected by a wire frame, with another frame to pull down over the windscreen.Armoured Land Rover ARV - lightly marked, blue grille lights, no lights on top - a black heavily modified, armoured Land Rover Defender 110 used by armed police.BMW X5 - marked, blue grille lights, an all-blue low-profile lightbar on top, headlight wig-wags.BMW M5 - dark grey, unmarked, blue grille lights, headlight wig-wags.Volvo S60 ARV - marked, blue grille lights, all-blue low-profile lightbar on top, headlight wig-wags.Range Rover Sport ARV - marked, blue grille lights, all blue low-profile lightbar on top.LDV Maxus - light grey/silver and marked, blue grille lights, two sets of blue rotating lights on top.Renault Espace - marked, blue grille lights, headlight wig-wags, blue rotating lights on top.--- Emergency Medical Vehicles ---Honda CR-V Rapid Response Vehicle - blue dashboard lights, all blue low-profile lightbar on top, blue lights on front bumper, headlight wig-wags.Volvo V70 Rapid Response Vehicle - blue grille lights, all blue low-profile lightbar on top, blue dashboard lights, headlight wig-wags.Vauxhall Movano - blue lights on all sides at the top and in the grille, headlight wig-wags.Renault Master - blue rotating lights built into the corners of the roof of the ambulance, grille lights, and headlight wig-wags.--- West Midlands Fire Service ---Various Scanias, Volvos and Dennis firetrucks ..------------------Yes, that is alot of cars, but keep in mind that some won't make it in. Also, to keep you from having to browse through a huge list of police cars in-game before finding the right one, I might use the system of having a dispatch control room, like in the Florian Hamburg mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forensics Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Sounds great! As well as using Volvo's as traffic cars west Midlands police use them as ARV's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomperson139 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'm not from the West Midlands, But are you sure they use Aurmoured Land Rovers as ARVs. As far as I know ARVs are normally Volvos and BMWs. Also they probably use a Volvo V70 as a traffic car and general patrol car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookas Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'm not from the West Midlands, But are you sure they use Aurmoured Land Rovers as ARVs. As far as I know ARVs are normally Volvos and BMWs. Also they probably use a Volvo V70 as a traffic car and general patrol car.Yes. According to UK Emergency, there is a black armoured Land Rover that is used as an ARV. They say it is used in Staffordshire, however, a video of such a Land Rover and its armed squad in action in Quinton, Birmingham, can be found on YouTube: It is, of course, not their only ARV, and it is likely that only one exists in the WMP fleet.Thanks for the information about the other ARVs, I will add those then, too. But never have I ever seen a police V70. I think Yorkshire Police have them, but not West Mids. I doubt we even have them in the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
