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Very cool! Can't wait to see more, the screenshots look awesome!

I think the Kevin C Kane has more character to it. All the new vessels look too much alike

On the subject of aircraft, I was curious if there was an intention (or still is) for close air support to play a larger role in the mod? It seems like you guys put in a bit of work with the AH64 for it's only inclusion in the mod to be a brief fly by as the game starts. Airborne assets play a large role in US military operations, even escorting routine supply convoys. The absence of any CAS always seemed to be a bit unfortunate.

True, but when it comes to a mechanic involving emergency personnel and vehicles striking them couldn't it get kind of messy? It's just a fact that cops and firefighters in NYC pretty routinely end up standing in the streets without any special bright vests on. There really aren't any numbers on how many cops have been bumped by a car in the line of duty in NYC, but for some context the last cop to be struck and killed by a vehicle here was in 1997. https://www.odmp.org/agency/2758-new-york-city-police-department-new-york

There's a bit of realism issue to vehicle-pedestrian collisions in a NYC mod. The citywide speed limit is only 25mph unless otherwise posted. Even large 6 lane highways like West St in downtown Manhattan have a speed limit of only 35mph. People really aren't going fast enough to make first responders being struck by vehicles a major issue. Civilian employees of the NYPD who work traffic control all day wear reflective vests, but aside from that it's unusual to see actual cops wearing gear like that. Even on special events and on scene in collisions, cops usually just rely on their vehicle's emergency lights to create visibility. For gameplay, it's actually very realistic to simply put a cop standing in the street to momentarily stop traffic.A mechanic where personnel can be run over for standing in a vehicle's path would make a lot of sense if the mod took place in a rural area or on a highway, but in this case would in fact detract from realism.

TLC enforcement duties fall under the jurisdiction of a completely different agency. TLC maintains it's own force of inspectors who are responsible for dealing with rules specific to NYC's taxis and for-hire cars. While NYPD can of course enforce these rules too it's generally a task deferred to the aforementioned agency. There's a reason why NYC has more law enforcement agencies operating within it than any other city in the US. There are a hell of a lot of specialized departments with specialized tasks. NYPD is just the largest and performs the general law enforcement functions. That said, the various videos and photos you can find online of uniformed NYPD officers driving patrol cars painted like taxis, clearly, aren't TLC inspectors. Additionally TLC inspectors don't carry a firearm, so in anything you see where the plainclothes officer coming out of a spiffy cop-taxi has a weapon on their hip you can reasonably assume it's NYPD. As TLC has such a small force and this is a pretty niche subject the best way to verify what I'm telling you may just be to google around. Rules regarding taxi in NYC are a bit different from most of the country. They don't get exclusive operation rights to areas or the authority to set rates. A company which purchases a medallion from TLC must outfit their specifically authorized vehicle to the TLC's regulations regarding specific equipment from decals to dividers, computers, meters, etc. The rates are set by the city through TLC so that every company has to charge the same price. Companies or individual operators messing with the meter really isn't an issue these days. Not only does the threat of a medallion being revoked create a huge deterrent like you mentioned, but the systems are now very sophisticated. The meter is intigrated with all sorts of silliness from an onboard TV, automated messages from TLC, credit card system, etc. Chances are the dude driving the cab would have no idea how to alter the meter without screwing up everything else. Besides, here are also routine inspections for these vehicles. In all seriousness the yellow cabs really aren't a big problem in NYC. The livery car-services are an entirely different animal. Licensing is cheaper and the extent of required equipment doesn't go beyond an amber duress light positioned on the back of the car, hardware to display the operator's license and a poster from the TLC on the back of the driver's seat. These for hire cars don't have metered fares, but rather the cost of the trip will (or at least is supposed to be) agreed upon before the trip. It's mostly these numerous black towncars zipping around which TLC enforcement ends up addressing.

Not entirely accurate. While TLC enforcement does mostly utilize unmarked patrol vehicles the vast majority (if not all) unmarked RMPs painted as NYC cabs actually belong to NYPD and are used as regular unmarked police vehicles. These RMPs are assigned to NYPD precincts and are used by both uniformed and plainclothes officers. They often perform routine patrols, respond to calls, conduct vehicle stops. I think the confusion is coming from the fact that in NYC there are a few different types of taxis. This is a tightly regulated city and the only authorized taxis which can pick up passengers on the streets are the uniformly marked yellow (or green, but that's a different story) cabs. These are the ones which NYPD has a few imitations of and what most people think of when they hear about cops using undercover taxis. These are the only taxis authorized to pick up 'street hails' and cruise around looking for passengers. Much more present, especially outside Manhattan, are car services. These cars have numeric license plates (Starting with the letter T and ending with C) and need some required ID/equipment inside, but otherwise are just regular cars with whatever markings the owner sees fit. These cars can only pick up people who have called up and arranged for pick-up. Violations of rules like that are what TLC mostly enforces. As such, I've seen that they do have some unmarked RMPs with the TC plates on them, but other than that no deceptive markings. I don't imagine that RMPs painted as yellow NYC cabs would make much sense for TLC either as the yellow cabs, operating with an expensive license (medallion) sometimes costing more than a millions dollars to obtain, aren't subject to the restrictions of typical car services and as such wouldn't be seen engaging in some of the sneaky tactics that the car services do.

Glad to hear that everyone's input about the ambulances was useful. I'm sure the finished product is going to be outstanding Newfoundking's snippy responses are quickly becoming my favorite part of this topic. lol

^That and I'm pretty sure the ones at their stations aren't in service. My understanding is that the ambulances sitting at their command are ones not being used for the current tour or have stopping by for administrative reasons. Ambulances available for call are usually driving around, or like Miercolini said, parked somewhere (with the EMTs playing on their phones). Also, that's just the way FDNY's ambulances operate. Many hospitals in NYC operate their own EMS which respond are dispatched the same way as FDNY. These ones almost always can be found steetside parked near their hospitals or patrolling nearby. There's no shortage of private EMS services as well. When in service these guys seem to almost always be on patrol. Some communities in NYC do operate their own volunteer ambulance service, however these are less common. Ambulances and response vehicles belonging to VAS (from what I've seen) typically stay in quarters unless dispatched for a call. For realism purposes in the mod the best option would probably to have ambulances automatically park in desiganted spots adjacent to the hospital, either on the side of the street or on the sidewalk itself. Most hospitals in NYC have a garage for the ambulance to drop off their patient, but these garages usually can't accomidate more than a few vehicles at once and require the bus be moved once a patient is taken inside.

There's also really no shortage of hydrents in NYC. Every block has a few of them and traffic are quick to tow cars parked within 15 feet of one. As was already mentioned though, DCU's water cannons just sit in lots and wouldn't be filled in the field regardless. The inclusion of the LRAD would make the disused water cannons needless anyway. I'm still inclined to guess it's a fuel tanker given how spiffy the fuel limit on helicopters was in the US Army mod and the fact that the NYPD does indeed employ a whole lot of these trucks for that purpose. The only other possible purpose that comes to mind would be using it to decon a hazmat area I suppose, but I don't know that these trucks have ever been used for something like that. Side note on the SRGs: These are still most likely going to be ESU officers. It's likely that the SRG will end up being something similar to the NYPD's existing model for their Hercules teams which consist of mostly CTU and ESU officers. Considering that ESU already only consists of a few hundred cops it seems unlikely that the Commissioner's plan of having 300 officers assigend to SRG will mean an entirely new force of officers whom would be roghly the equivilent of ESU anyway.

It's absolutely a fuel tanker. I've seen them on Randall's Island to fuel the harbor unit's boats. Though I've never personally seen any assigned/marked ESU I would assume that such are probaby used to fuel portable generators, mobile commands, vehicles in the field. In the mod I'd assume they're for the helecopters. Edit: The insignia on the in-game tanker may not even be ESU? Aviation has a similar insignia. That's my guess.

Fair enough. I was sort of thinking of the way LAWA police and port police were included as astedics of the LA mod. NYC actually has more law enforcement agencies operating within it than any other city in the United States, though the NYPD of course is the dominant force. Regardless, the attention given to other aspects of the mod already seem to make this a very accurate represention of the city. Very excited to see the finished product. Awesome stuff!

I love the realistic feel to all these vehicles! Right down to the DSNY trucks and channel 7's news van- this is absolutely incredible. Looking at the NYPD vehicles I noticed the barrier truck which is going to be a great touch for sure. Really excited to see DSU's LRAD HMMWV as well! The only thing I noticed was that the map seems to include tunnels and bridges. Generally speaking it's not the NYPD who handles emergencies related to bridges/tunnels but rather TBTA or PAPD officers. While NYPD handles general law enforcement citywide there are dozens of other in NYC including the Sheriffs, MTA, TLC, PEP, DEP, Homeless, Hospitals, etc. While including any of these agencies would be a little redundant (as the same functions are of course performed by the NYPD) it could contribute a little to the authentic feel of New York.

Hey, quick question. I'm sure this has been addressed before but after scouring through the search function still can't find the answer. I just had to reinstall EM4 and I've got that annoying green shadow again showing units that are behind objects. How do I get rid of this? I tried looking through the em4.cfg file and some places but I'm honestly not really sure what I'm looking for. Any help would be much appreciated. =]

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