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There are several custom scripts running in the mod. One, you have the Stop sign script, the other is the night sound script, third is the fire hydrant script. Two of those are by bma, the hydrant is by me. Try checking those because those are the most likely suspects. In Em4, if a loop in a script such as the one you posted does not terminate, the game crashes. Stack overflow I guess.

Hmmm..in our C++ classes, we were told that we didnt need to include a initial value if we already had the integer value or counter declared already. The counter in that loop has already been defined as a global variable so re declaring it in the loop would mess it up each time the loop was entered. Lets keep this public so that we can "crowdfund" the fix for the mod and bring out some of the talented scripters on the site.

Oopsie. Forgot. Its gotta go through the both of us first.

Yes. If the moderators see this, they might give you a warning point for asking for a release date. Please be warned.

Thank you for crediting the content owners. I have a Lenco BEAR and Beacat model currently completed but unwilling to share due to recent issues and they are preserved for my mod. I also have a Chevrolet Silverado HD2500 model WIP, but stopped due to the conflict. I would recommend using Nnico's CVPI model instead of mine. Mine was intended for civilian use only. I dont know where to find a link for it but it is still somewhere around the interwebz. The units look great so far. I had many many lightbar and LED packages available previously but shut them down due to the recent conflict as well.

This is the attitude we need around here. People willing to accept their mistakes and apologize. That is what divides this community right now. Those who have been wronged, and those who refuse to admit they have wronged others. MikeyPI's post sums it up nicely. Have a good day/night and stay safe.

Sorry. Thought you were a PC based on your knowledge of UK cops. You've lost my respect and regained it. You know why? because you owned up to your mistake. Something that very very few people on this site can do. Have a beer. You deserve it.

He doesn't believe that. He believes that once content creators like him, me and the moderators leave, that is what this site will become - all reskin mods. He has a life and a family, and he is in the Army (paratrooper I assume because of user name) so he probably got sent to the Middle East for a couple years and only was able to come back to his home now. People need to remember that we got lives too ya know. I have college, clinical depression, rejection issues and semi abusive parents. MikeyPI has some things that I am not allowed to say to avoid doxxing and NFK has some too. Thank you for actually being grateful for us. You're one of a rare breed.

Have you forgotten all those vehicle bases I did, those Fords, Chevy's, Dodge's, Ambulances, Random light equipment packages, and my own Los Angeles Mod? How about the Montana mod which I've worked on contains the first functioning (albeit buggy) American style volunteer Fire Department gameplay? The way you say it makes it seem like Dyson and Raf are the only people who have made 'innovative' things here. How about MikeyPI's NYC mod? It has SO MUCH new content, over a hundred genuine new models, a custom map, and progressive gameplay, which no other mod has. There are plenty of other things that have been done for this aging mod. Please be more open minded about it. If anything, NYC2.0 would have kept this series going way more than any other mod (even mine) could. But unfortunately, the community has decided it doesnt need that mod, so the moderators have just ended it. Ey, don't forget me. I value my time just like you guys do. I have my own set of models and buildings I wanted to share but right now, naahhh, I think I'll just give it to other content creators such as yourself.

Sorry Constable Mills, your Facebook post blaming me definitely made me lose respect for you. I'll be as civil and respectful as I can. Something you didn't afford me when you claimed that my packs are the cause of these crediting issues In regards to your post, you definitely weren't seeing it this way when you were commenting on the Manhattan/Brooklyn page. You've voiced your distaste for the moderators, the "childishness" of them, and my content being the source of this mess. What you think is a 'little' issue, is actually a big one, becuase it opens the possibilty of this website being SHUT DOWN for hosting stolen content. It also means that it would be the end of the english speaking Em4 community. Pixels and polygons are only insignificant if you're not the guy who made them. Please take into consideration the amount of work, research, trial and error and endless fitting and finishing that the model makers had to go through to make their models. As a police officer, I was expecting you to be more considerate and understanding towards the content creators, but from what I see in your words off site, you don't really seem to care about us and would rather have a constant stream of content regardless of source. Now tell me who has the simplistic and childish view on things?

I might have some things that can help you I have a Subaru Legacy model. I also have a model of an NSX.

Naah. Show it to MikeyPI and give it to me. And if you believe that content creators' complaints are ridicoulous, then you are contributing to the site's demise.

I dont believe you've commited a mistake there, but apologizing and owning up to a mistake is good. What you have done is more mature than most of the community at large.

It will last as long as it needs to. As long as the community feels that its okay to disrespect us, then it will be this way. Don't forget that the only reason this thing started is because the forum browsers decided to make it an issue. The content creators then watched as the fingers pointed at them and decided, its not profitable or worthwhile to put our blood, sweat and tears into a community that simply doesnt give a damn about us. All the people want is a constant stream of 'new' content regardless of quality. If someone breaks the chain, they are hated and railroaded. Since the community wants 200 reskin mods with the same vehicles over and over again, this is what they will get. Which is why most of the model makers here have left. Its also why I've shut my things down, because like people have said, that my models cause problems for them. Content creators don't need to invest time in Em4 because we have lives outside of it, and we could choose to take our talents to other games such as GTAV. More importantly, if people say that the content creators are the ones destroying EmP, what incentive do we have to continue making things for these people? Its also terrible that OC makers like us have absolutely no security over our content. Any random chump could just reupload it somewhere else and slap their name on it, and nothing could be done about it. If you call us greedy for thinking this way, then you probably are part of the problem. If I stole your car, then the police caught me, and then I were to blame you for having a car in the first place, wouldn't you be mad too? The boycott is basically our way of saying that we have rights as content creators. Now here's the flipside to that. People here feel so entitiled to be able to get to play a mod that they will take anything that is given, stolen or poor quality, and bow down to that author as long as the flow is constant. The sense of entitilement is what has ruined this site. "We are the community so we deserve new mods everyday" attitude is the root cause of the community going this direction. The moderators are only there to enforce the site's rules that these entitled people feel are unreasonable in every single form. The audience who aren't able to make anything besides reskins are gonna have one long boring summer without original content (OC). Its their choice and there is no one else to blame but them. If you think a content creator standing up for him/herself is ridiculous, then don't expect us to want to mod for this place. This kind of attitude scares of potential OC creators as well. The truth is, that the moderators are enforcing a rule that has existed for years. Only now have they decided to act upon it. There could be a variety of reasons, but the most likely one I assume is that the site has been sued because of some content here that belongs to someone else. Due to the way lawsuits work, the moderators and Stan aren't able to speak about it publicly. That is why they have started the crackdown, probably because they don't want to get sued, and so the site doesnt get shut down. If anything, the lawsuit should go after the author who stole the things and not the site itself. Sorry for hijacking THVFD's thread. I will take any punishment that is handed out to me by the authorities.

Well said. Now for my all caps and bold statements: The moderators WILL BE making their final conclusions about the various authors. They aren't able to respond often or even occasionaly because they are so busy trying to trace down EVERY SOURCE FOR EVERY MODEL AND SKIN. This is why they haven't said anything yet, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THEY ARE NOT DONE YET WITH THE INVESTIGATION. I see posts on FB and various media saying the site is ruled by children. Well, if you don't like it here, then GTFO. Thats it. There are many other sites you can go to for reskinned, rehashed and stolen content. When these disrespectful people are gone, me, helijumper, the NYC Mod team and the rest of us will come back to making mods full swing. I can at least promise that on my end.

TH is fine with it. He's boycotting the same stuff too.

Fact of the matter is, the actions of some authors are the ones that fractured this community. NOT THE MODERATORS ENFORCING A RULE THATS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS. If you want someone to blame, its the countless reskin mods that don't credit, and the few mods that steal models and other content. Thats pretty much the whole situation down into once sentence. People like MikeyPI and NFK are easy targets because they are authority. Its like how criminals think of the police. Content creators like me also get blamed because we assert our rights to be credited FOR OUR OWN CONTENT, yet get lambasted, ridiculed and crucified for standing up. How is it fair that the people with NO skills get to stand up against the "moderators brutality" when content creators get slapped down for asking to be credited?

Can I tell you something, because this really needs to be said. Me and several modders have closed our things down in protest of the childishness of the community as a whole over this whole copyright thing. This whole thing was blown out of proportion due to some uncooperative authors trying to revolt against the site and its officers. Due to the fact that a number of content creators were blamed for this issue, we have decided to close down our things until you all realize how important moderation, crediting and most of all, respect, is necessary in a functioning community.

But I do see how you have a dislike for the moderators. Well, if anything, the moderators are only doing their job. Keeping stolen content out of this site so that Stan and EmP does not get sued. The credits issue is not really an issue, but rather a bunch of authors whining about it and making it into an issue. Then there's the rest of the population who have authority issues and want to stick it to the MAN, so they go and revolt agains the authorities. From what I see on your Facebook posts, you're one of them.

I chose to remove my content not because of the credit issues at all, but because of all the children and immature people whining. The dispute is caused, primarilly by the members siding with certain authors who have been found guilty of model theft. These authors in turn twisted the story to make the moderators appear to be the enemy, whilst downlplaying their own transgressions. I somehow got mixed into this mess because apparently my models are bad for the community and that I'm a whiny bitch, so this is my problem too. Me and several authors have made agreements to shut down our mods so that the children will finally leave this site, leaving behind only the true commited members.

You're talking to him lol. He's one of the 5 or so people with power. Show em what you feel lol. What stuff have you made? And it wasn't the moderators causing controversy, it was the certain mod author.

I was told to shut them down by the people on Facebook, because apparently this whole credit thing is my fault. So I let them have what they wanted.

Its not that at all. Its because The mod community would just steal from THVFD once the mod is releasedThe drama is caused by uncooperative modders who refuse to credit others, not the moderatorsPublic access is denied because the author wont comply, not that he or she has made a tiny mistake. If you fix the mistake, you will be unharmedI made a credit mistake, I corrected it, I wasn't banned or whatever.Believe what you want to believe. There is no witchunt. There is not instigation. There is nothing but whining authors.

I'm not referencing you at all. Idk what your situation is. I thought there was an exodus going on or something. If that isnt the case, please correct me.