For the record, the following is the first post made in this topic: This has been going on for WAY too long. Discussions on war, politics, the military, terrorism, North Korea, 9/11, the Geneva convention, conspiracy theories and all that crap have NOTHING to do with the first post. I don't know how it escalated to an 11-page Fox News-style debate, but I think that's enough. BACK TO TOPIC!