Fred03

My dudes, its a rural area mod. Scarcity of resources is THE thing that most separates urban areas (play the LA mod) from rural areas (Montana mod). There's only so many ways to simulate scarcity of resources in a mod.

A variety of "in universe" explanations: 1. Apparatus may pre-date that specific standard 2. Apparatus may be designed so that its shorter and can fit into tighter rural areas like down narrow dirt roads which required sacrificing cab size. 3. Other firefighters may be expected to arrive on other apparatus. 4. 2 people is the minimum needed to utilize a fire engine in real world (not NFPA) applications. 5. Few if any departments 100% meet everything the NFPA would like to see. There's the NFPA standard and then there's the real world. There's few departments outside the military and major urban departments that are 100% NFPA compliant with everything. On my first volunteer department we had engines that could seat 3, 5, and 9. Rarely was every seat filled on an engine, often other firefighters would arrive on other apparatus or in POVs on-scene.

It likely depends on the scenario. Often for EMTs or Paramedics to pronounce they're supposed to call medical control (a doctor somewhere) first. However there's exceptions for places with bad communications or if you can't reach medical control for other reason. Often the protocol is written like "for medical arrests terminate after 30 min or 3 consecutive 'No shocks advised' from an AED". And as stated above most protocols allow for CPR to not be initiated (which is tantamount to pronouncement if there's obvious signs of death such as lividity or traumatic injuries incompatible with life. The reason you're not finding it when looking it up is that such specifics aren't at the state level, they're at the individual service/medical director level.

To pat down subjects one of the officers has to have the subject "arrested" and then you can select another officer and task them with patting down the subject. You need two officers.

I just did an internet search, I can't tell you any more specific than that since it was almost a decade ago.

This is fantastic, really a step forward in US focused modding, I'm really impressed by the variety of new scripts and call outs. So far the only bug I've found is that when you return the SAR trailer to HQ it gets stuck on the edge of the map. I suspect this has to do with the vehicle pulling it leaving the map first. It hasn't appeared to impact the game much. Once again: Great work, merry Christmas.

Very nice

The Why VFD in Pima County AZ isn't much of a fire department but they had in 2020 and likely still have in reserve a 1960s pumper pretty similar to the one pictured. The Baker NV VFD also has some pretty darn ancient trucks that work well for the less than one call a year they get. (Baker VFD pictured) I think for mod purposes it would make sense to have that be a mutual aid unit. Both the Why VFD and another department I knew in rural MO were departments in name only and most of the serious stuff in their districts was dealt with by a "mutual aid" department that was essentially the primary department in the closest real town. They'd likely send that ancient pumper out on an "all hands" kind of call. In a lot of rural areas the next mutual aid department could be an hour away (plus spin up time) so an old truck kept around back could still see service once in a blue moon.

Appreciate the release and the improvements!

Looks nice!

No FBI? Is this a sanctuary city mod?

Its likely the coronas that you're missing. This is an issue with a few mods. I think if you go get the Miami mod it has the updated Coronas and that might be your easiest route.

The first edition of this mod (something something Chester County?) was a rather impressive reskin of the LA mod and played fine. The second edition of this mod was an very impressive total overhaul of all the units and included a new map and new scripts, that version would play for about 20-30min and then crash to the desktop.

Trucks look amazing! Have you considered implementing a "random unit" sort of script similar to what the old NYC Mod had for NYPD patrol cars for DNRC and other off-map state units? I feel it might help add some variety to the game along with a sort of "well we don't know who's going to respond from where but somebody is coming from somewhere" feeling which is unfortunately very true to form for rural emergency services.

The rotating effect is interesting. Are you planning on having all the lights be that same effect or limit it to just what vehicles actually have "rotary" lightbars? Its groundbreaking work for sure!

Just use the water cannon and have one of your officers flashbang them and then quickly grab the guy with a sign. Once you get the sign guy into a vehicle everyone stops fighting.

Gotta say itchboy that the sudden increase in updates and (apparent) progress from this mod is the best thing to come out of 2020/2021. For so long I thought I'd never see this mod come out and when my PC crashed and I lost my OG file of the Montana Mod (even though it crashed a lot) I was very bummer. Thanks for keeping at it and bringing back hope.

An interesting idea but remember in a lot of rural areas the volunteer base isn't consistent enough to allow for that level of advance planning. We would get toned for a fire, everyone would go to the station and we'd take as many trucks as we guessed we'd need with whatever people we had. When we got a residential structural fire and only 2 people responded we only took one truck and called (prayed) for mutual aid. Then we had the time where we had a 4 acre brush fire burning slowly surrounded by dirt roads already and we had so many people respond we rolled the brush truck and then 2 engines full of people just because we could.

Makes total sense to me! Such a neat Easter egg for the mod.

Do you plan to change the POV lights in question to bring them into "compliance" with Montana's POV light laws?

Alright I'll bite lol. I drive a 2008 Forester with one B/B light where the rear view mirror is, 2 grill lights (B), and a B/B light on each side of the top of my back glass. All internal. M previous vehicle was a 2000 CR-V with one B/B light where the rear view mirror is, a B/B light on each side of the top back-glass, and a B/B light on the sides of the rear facing out each side. All internal. DM me if you'd like lights or video. Amazing work as always.

Me: "Man these vehicles don't seem that old" Also Me: *Realizes I'm just used to rural areas with ancient rigs*

Nice to see something new in the community.

A classic. I think every single VFD has a guy who has this truck on it. I think it's a law or something.

Looking good