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At this point, EMP might as well officially be dead. For years we were teased this or that mod or update was coming. At this point, about the last thing I can find is em-c Miami Mod advertised new models around Christmas. Almost 5 month later, still no release. Not to mention the year or two of advertised new models or whatever that have yet to be released like every other mod that seemed to be one last breath of fresh air. The modding community seems officially dead at this point.

Is the last publicly available update still from like 2 years ago?

I assume you have fixed the bug by now. Are there plans to ever publicly release a downloadable update?

I can't blame you, but maybe move to a separate topic for further discussion?

"Full releases" that IMO should have had just a touch more stability to them. I will take quality over quantity. "a community that can wait" it really can't though! It's pretty much dead compared to 2009-2010. Sorry to disappoint you, and thank you for the kind words that you still enjoy my projects. As newer, far more complex mods came out, I lost complete interest in my own. Perhaps a better way to put it would be that I disagree with the development cycle. It's been close to 2 years sine Montana 2.5 came out. I'm not saying the mod was a bug ridden mess, far from it. Almost 2 years later and not a single patch. I'd be happy to have just 1 maybe 2 patches by now. It's not like I didn't post like 5-10 bug reports when it came out. That's not even counting unique bug reports by others. Not 1 single patch! Not a single script fix or XML fix. Nothing in 2 years. New Civilian vehicles are cool but in ~2 years nothing has been (publicly) fixed. New civilian cars aren't whats needed at this time. Fix up SOME of the more basic script errors/minor bugs that can quickly and easily be fixed. Then give us an update ~3/6 months later with SOME new Civ vehicles. Then in another ~3/6 months, give us a few more civ vehicles and maybe a new feature or useful emergency vehicle/apparatus. Not an exact scenario, but you get the idea. My first submod had like 10 patches released. My second submod went through some private alpha and beta stages between myself and/or other modders. It saw 2 or 3 public betas if memory serves me right. I was 10 years younger with a lot more free time on my hands. I don't have the time to contribute near as much as I did. I have reached out to certain modders to offer to pitch in here and there in hopes of being able to at least slightly accelerate the development pace, but here I am making this post. Models are one thing, but I feel like if the modding community would simply setup git repos for their mods curial files, it would help everyone collaborate better.

Sounds like another project that will see half ass completion by the team. Montana 2.5, Nostalgia, and this or that project gets released as a beta or full release when even basic functions don't properly function and a year or so later we don't even have a patch to fix the smallest of bugs. There is great talent in this community to date, but to many half @$$ projects these days.

My advice. Focus on a skillset. I would say making models for starters but if you're like me, I focused more on scripting. To each their own. Visual art wasn't my strength. Just be prepared to take initiative and ask questions, but be prepared for more of a lesson in catching fish then being handed a fish. Focus and stay determined!

I'm not trying to be rude, but if you have that many conversations, shoot them a link to EMP in someway. As you said, forums just aren't the prefered way these days, but it has it's pros and cons as well imo. Maybe it's time for EMP to evolve in some way? Regardless, spread the word in the meantime while you continue to get your project up and going. Every little bit helps if you want to see a more active community. I feel like you have a major challenge ahead of you, but if it can help possibly attract fans and devs alike(or even fans to eventual devs), that's a good thing. Good luck!

No way in hell I expected such a fast response! Spot on and excellent work! I'd love to see an update to that mod one day, but I know you have plenty on your plate as is.

In addition, I feel it helps add some authenticity to the game not to have a base for them. In a case of Cal-Fire call out, I'm going to assume we are talking a longer response time then an average LAFD and possibly even LACoFD response as they are going to more rural harder to reach areas. The mod is looking great even if I personally don't like the aesthetics of a lot of the vehicles from this time period. The Trans Am is looking great though!

So, I did a little searching for US Volly mods in this day and age. I came up pretty dry besides Montana Mod 2.5. II recall at one point in time there was a US based Volly Mod for EM4. It had a small station in the upper left corner of the map with like 2 trucks, and a larger station with about 4 or 5 trucks plus a Battalion Chief and possibly EMS captain in the bottom right. I can't recall the name but maybe this rings a bell with someone that could tell me the name?

So needless to say it's been a hot minute since v2.5 has been released. I hate to be negative on such a phenomenal project, and I hate to sound ungrateful, but I wish we had a 2.6 by now. I have no idea how much work has been done to 2.5 since release, but I wish we had just a slightly polished version of 2.5 before we hopefully see a v3 one day.

All due respect it's 2023. Can we skip the mod-db link to text to mega and just post a mega or cloud host url and be done? Is this any worse than a certain dev asking people to download mods through a profit driven url shortener as I tried 10 years ago before you were even on this site(officially) much less the most impressive developer since the legendary Hoopah who broke grounds with the LA Mod and in 2023, all respect you pushed the game engine to extents even further than he might have dreamed without officially speaking for him.

I have 2.0.1 amd 2.5 stashed away still. It'd be nice to share them here. It's not like Bama was ever seeking monetization for his work unlike some devs. No name's mentioned.. So what is the true harm of releasing them under some kind of shareware licensee. Not sure if Bama is still around these days but if not, what's the big issue? Like he is going to file some sort of lawsuit for releasing his work claiming he lost out on thousands of dollars. I can't see any lawyer in their right mind take such a case! I personally hope my work will be shared in any way shape or form for as long as there is someone out there who wants to play it or use it for their own mod in some way. Credit would be nice, but at the end of the day, we are all here to have fun. We shouldn't be worried about silly lawsuits. Worse case scenario would be if he made a DMCA complaint, In which case, remove the content, and be good to go. Stan has used the same hosting company for ages and surely once DMCA is not going to cause any more harm than say a speeding ticket.

So there's a new game in the series coming. Hopefully with better modding support! https://store.steampowered.com/app/850170/EMERGENCY/