Hey thanks, my skins are always being tinkered with, can never satisfy myself, which is why I never complete any mods...lol feeling I am still short on models that I like., i.e. good ladder, squad. think I am settled on PD though as well as EMS, though I did like the look of the La France ladder that was recenlty done by THVFD, (how did he remove the previous lights from the enginde roof?) S