Thank you for your appology, it is very much appreciated, as to sawdbuster, I appologize as well, with all the childish behavior as of late I took it upon myself to display some of my own. In no way was I speaking ill of you, merely being smart is all.. I know what you meant I just felt like making a totally inappropriate comment, for that I appologize, hopefully EMC will find it to appologize for his end of this skirmish and everyone can press forward without holding a grudge, since everyone else has managed to conduct themselves appropriately I think it should be possible for all parties to move on off of this now.