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  1. Why would PD be needed? Fire depts throughout the country respond to natural gas leaks, and all too often, construction accidents that puncture a pipeline. More often then not, it just involves turning off the gas to the home (shockingly simple, i know!) and notifying the gas company. Rarely, and I stress, RARELY, is a large scale evacuation of the area needed which might require pd assistance. Agencies respond in full structure fire mode just in case the worst case scenario occurs and there is an explosion or fire while en route. As for smell, depends if you were upwind or downwind, and where it was localized.
  2. So lets break this down.. 2 Engines, 1 Quint, BC, Ambulance respond to a call Firefighters enter the premises in full PPE 10 mins later, 1 engine is released 25 mins later, remaining units investigate the area Sounds to me like a smell of smoke, natural gas, or some other odor prompted the call. They responded with a typical structure response, got on scene, made their initial investigation, found nothing, and proceeded to drive around the area to see if they could locate the source until it dissipated. This happens a lot with methane from sewers or smell of electrical smoke from underground vaults. It usually manifests itself as a heavy initial release then dissipates over time as units make sure the issue is temporary and localized instead of part of a larger problem. Many times the initial dispatch is incorrect as well. Someone calls to report that they smell smoke in the area, but instead say something is on fire and hangs up, dispatch sends a structure assignment who enter in full gear, only to find that someone was smelling a bbq from down the street. Other times it's just a smell call and a few streets over you'll find public works send a man underground to locate the source and issue. Remember, FD responds to who calls, not necessarily where the problem actually is at first.
  3. There are still a couple of LARCs running around, mostly in Minnesota and New York. Sodus Point FD has one, I believe Virginia Beach got rid of theirs as did Nantucket Fire. They are just huge cash dumps maintenance wise and most have been replaced by hovercraft (which are great for ice rescues) and other, more modern dual purpose vehicles like the Hydratek MPAV.
  4. It can indeed be dangerous, but every water source comes with its inherent dangers and challenges. On the Day Fire in the Los Padres National Forest, a Skycrane rolled over and impacted the ground after catching its snorkel on the lip of a tank at the Lockwood Heavy Helibase. Thankfully everyone on board walked away safely but the helo was a total loss for the most part. With Type 1 (Heavy) helicopters such as Skycranes, Fire Kings and Firehawks, you want to keep them away from the Type II and Type III smaller helicopters due to the differences in pattern and flight characteristics, using dip sites and portable water tanks gives fire managers the ability to place the helispots wherever they are needed the most and in the safest areas for all involved. With bambi buckets, the concern is not overflying uninvolved residential housing and busy streets due to spillage and safety regulations, so with a dip tank like the one in the above photo, you can place it in an area that meets all FAA and department regulations. Mike
  5. Turning out tends to be less complex of an issue then who has to deal with the paperwork in the end. More often then not, mutual aid agreements, and cross-jurisdictional responses are well thought out before hand and agreements are in place with the agencies. Especially when an incident requires a specialized team such as divers, Air Support, or SWAT. The major stickler then becomes who has to deal with the pile of paperwork for the incident, especially if it's an injury accident with city property damage. In an area where two or more agencies share a border, you will often find Police officers with measuring tape arguing over who's jurisdiction an accident occurred and who has to deal with the investigation. Areas like West Hollywood that share a border with LASD and LAPD, or in Orange County where CHP, Westminster PD, Orange County Sheriff, and Garden Grove PD all have different sections of Beach Blvd (Highway 39), it can be quite trying at times to listen to the officers squabble about inches on the other guys side of the line all to get out of having to deal with the report.
  6. Great pic, and many departments use portable water tanks (known as pumpkins colloquially) to refill snorkels and bambi buckets when no water source is available. This allows Engines and Water Tenders to refill it and keep shuttling water back and forth to keep air operations close by the incident and travel time minimized. Google Dip Tanks, Pumpkins, and Portable Water Tanks for other pics, including some that look like dump truck trailers.
  7. There is no point in doing feds since it's an alphabet soup that would drive anyone mad. Here is a list of just a very small segment from State down to city for Los Angeles. California Highway Patrol - Primary LEA for all freeways and state highways, also contracts for primary law enforcement in some areas. Absorbed the California State police and all of their responsibilities California Dept of Corrections - In charge of state Jails, Handcrews, Cleanup crews California Department of Fish&Game - In charge of fish, game and wildlife California Department of Justice - Bureau of Firearms, Forensic Services, Gambling. Investigation & Intelligence, Narcotic Enforcement Agents, California State Parks - Rangers who deal in both Law Enforcement and Fire patrol/inspection California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control - Inspection and regulation of alcohol. Operates a lot of sting operations on various clubs and restaurants. University of California - Los Angeles Police - Primary LEA for UCLA California State University Police - Primary LEA for CSUN, CSUDH, and other Cal States Los Angeles County Sheriffs Dept - Unincorporated County areas, and contracts with many cities for primary law enforcement such as compton. Also contracts with many community colleges and has the Metro/Transit bureau contract and Harbor Patrol for Marina Del Rey and other areas. Los Angeles County Office of Public Safety (LA County Police) - County Parks, County Buildings, County Hospitals Los Angeles Police Department - Primary LEA for the city of Los Angeles Los Angeles General Services Police - municipal buildings, over 400 parks, 75 libraries, the Convention Center, Zoo and many other facilities throughout the City Los Angeles Port Police - Los Angeles Ports and Harbors Los Angeles World Airports Police - Van Nuys and Los Angeles International Airport Los Angeles Unified School Police - Primary LEA for city schools. Los Angeles City Park Ranger Department - Specially trained Rangers who handle Law Enforcement and Fire Patrol/inspection duties amongst others in larger parks. Minor Law Enforcement and inspection agencies - Los Angeles Bureau of Street Services Investigation & Enforcement Division - Los Angeles Building and Safety inspectors - Los Angeles Department of Transportation Investigations - Los Angeles County Department of Public Health inspectors There are probably others that I'm forgetting as well.
  8. Once again terminology plays a KEY role in understanding the vary complex set of procedures, protocols, and equipment used in Emergency Medicine. First off, there are two types of defibrillators in use today. The Automatic External Defibrillator and the Manual Defibrillator. AED's automatically diagnose two types of irregular rhythms, ventricular fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia and shock if appropriate. Its a simple place the pads, press the button, let the machine do its thing. All Firefighters, EMT's and many lay people are trained to utilize these. Unfortunately, they only are effective in those 2 rhythms and nothing else. It is simply a follow the voice prompt "idiot-proof" tool. For most fire departments in Southern California, and LAFD in particular, here are the protocols for useage from LAFD SOP: Since ALS care is almost always on scene within that time of BLS care being on scene, the AEDs are rarely utilized but are there if needed. Los Angeles County, and LACoFD especially, was one of the few test pilot programs to usher in the use of 12 Lead EKG Manual multi-functional defibrillator monitor such as the Lifepak 12. These machines are utilized by paramedics trained in Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS) and allow the medics to better diagnose and treat a plethora of other heart anomalies and rhythms beyond just v-fib and v-tac along with their boxes of heart drugs. Previously, they used standard 4 lead for years before companies were able to field a reliable and effective 12 lead similar to the large machines found in emergency rooms throughout the world. So back to your question, FF's can and do use AED's, but not Manual Defibs. Only paramedics utilize those, and while you do not need a doctorate to use one, it does take many hours and a high level of knowledge and training to be able to understand the complexities of the machine and the heart.
  9. Quick reply: the trucks are used only for Investigative and logistical support Depends on the department and the station and the policies post 9/11. LAFD stations have becoming near impossible to just drop by at from what I've heard, LACoFD fire stations are hit and miss, 127s (fabled sta 51 from the show) is always open to visitors, others will turn you away at the door and tell you to leave their property. When I was with Riverside Co FD, the stations with volunteers were more open then the straight CDF stations who would usually tell you to wait for the departments open house. The most common thing I've seen is if you come to take pics, instead of just a family dropping by to say hi, they'll ask to see some identification and make you sign a visitor guest log. It's not just 9/11 that has forced this, but people scouting stations and then waiting for a call to empty them before breaking in and robbing the firefighters blind. The best way to do it is send a formal request to the departments PIO/FIO and make contact with that station before hand. Just be respectful, and if they say go away, don't start a fight because you will lose. Some children on this board and others, and in real life seem to have strange ideas of rights and rule of law, and remember, all government buildings are paid for by taxpayers, but they are still private property and private places of business and you have no right to be there if they tell you to leave.
  10. Exactly and that is why the Dodge Charger lost out on the CHP Contract. CHP notified them recently that they will be sticking with Ford at least until 2010. Chrysler, in their infinite wisdom, "forgot" to include the price of the ballistic door panels in the contract and it became a huge bureaucratic pissing match with Dodge eventually losing. The handful of ones that were delivered with ballistic door panels may still be deployed, here and there, but most will be relegated to show cars, special duties, and stuff of that nature. It always comes down to cost, and that little item pushed the cost beyond the acceptable limit.
  11. The only differences are found in the electrical setup to accommodate the excess power drain and wiring for radios, sirens, lightbars and such
  12. And not to be crass, or get into a pissing contest, but I have made a lot of money with photos I took using a 200 dollar point and shoot camera, but it is in no way a professional camera, nor would it fit under the category "BEST top of the line". And not to put to fine a point on it or belabor the point, but saying something is "professional looking" in the multimedia industry is a lot like comparing 7th grade homework to upper division college courses. Nero and Roxio will never be able to produce the level of work you find on the "Tonight Show" or the latest hollywood blockbuster, but it won't look like crayon scribbles from kindergarten.
  13. Safety and tactics. On a house fire, you park your apparatus in front of the involved structure and you are between the fire and the apparatus. That is not necessarily a good place to be on a wildland or forest fire. This allows the apparatus to be parked facing out, with the rear towards the fire for ease of use and escape. The newer rigs are also having side pumps and connections for progressive hoselays and structure protection for a compromise of both missions. But for the longest time, all USFS Type III's were rear pumps. Nope, the only special service/police packages ford currently makes are the Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, Expedition Special Service Vehicle, Explorer Special Service Vehicle and the E-Series Van & Wagon
  14. The key here is "Top of the Line", which I am going to interpret as professional level vs regular consumer grade. In the multimedia video editing and post-production world there are really only 3 players, Final Cut Pro for mac or Adobe Premiere for windows, and Avid Media composer for both. Both Premiere and FCP will run you around 1200 bucks for software, and expect another 4 grand for hardware if you actually plan on doing anything more then just making youtube vids. Then you have to factor in 2 to 3 grand for plugins and addons, which there are hundreds of, and many are, unfortunately, necessary to create the types of movies and shows you see today. The other option is avid media composer which has its core following, but is being replaced by many stations and moviemakers by the above two. Even most film schools are switching to FCP and Adobe. You say you have bottomless pockets, well, expect to pay as much as you would for a small car, and since you are locked into PC, you're only real choice is Adobe Premier Pro CS4 or Avid. For prosumer level though, you can also take a look at Sony Vegas, but it's missing many of the features that are industry standards. Nero, roxio, and any of those "can be bought at best buy for about 100 bucks" are just for the mom and pop consumer videos, they're neither best, nor professional, nor top of the line or worth your time if you are thinking of getting a job in the industry.
  15. It comes from the old days of horse and buggies and hydrants with wooden plugs. Today the plug buggy is just a standard utility truck found at various stations for mail runs, supply, and such. Great pics, and here in the US we usually call them Dress Uniforms or Parade Uniforms depending on the department and their guidelines. Some older depts may have as many as 4 or 5 different uniforms for parades, public functions, dress events (like a mayors dinner), and other functions.
  16. UPDATED 5/16/2009: Fire Service Day Part 3 - LAFD 88 I'm almost done with the FSD pics, and this time it's a batch from LAFD Fire Station 88's. I happened to stop off there for just a few minutes and managed to grab 66 shots of their apparatus on display. The highlights are a full walk around of Swift Water 88 and the new OES Swift Water Rescue vehicle, as well as shots of Rescue Ambulance 88 and 909's new rigs with the toned down chevrons. So, as always, Enjoy! http://MikesPhotos.us Both.
  17. We have two big times of the year for expos, April/May is always a Fire Service Day throughout Southern California, where most of the departments host their open houses and they try to time it so that it coincides with National Law Enforcement Week for PD open houses as well. The 2nd time of the year is in October for Fire prevention week., which is a national event. As for the hosting, I run my own server with a dedicated business adsl line. This way I never have to worry about hosting, bandwidth limits, hard drive space, or what software I can run or cant. I do it all myself and greatly prefer it that way. Right now the website is hosting 67.8GB of photos on both the new and old site. The software package I use is Gallery2 but i've modified the themes, database, and a few of the modules to give it the look and features you see. I'll be unveiling a new site sometime around new years that will have a lot more code changes under the hood then what is visible. And yes, Squad 51 and Rescue 11 wee both at the event. The County of Los Angeles Fire Museum Association (CLAFMA) brought them both out to bask in the desert sun for a bit. Rescue 11 was restored by Jim Page himself, and the history of it can be found by googling. Mike
  18. California actually has two state fire departments, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CALFIRE) which has the responsibility for all Fire and EMS calls on unincorporated state lands, as well as many urban/suburban contracts such as Fresno, San Luis Obispo, and Riverside counties. The other department is the Office of Emergency Services (OES) which supplies engines, water tenders, and other equipment to agencies in exchange for their promise to staff them and respond in the apparatus as part of the Master Mutual Aid plan to all major incidents. You can find many pics of both agencies on my website.
  19. UPDATED 5/15/2009: Fire Service Day Part 1 - LACoFD This is a pretty huge update for all of you fire fans. The first part comes from the Fire Service Day at LACoFD Fire Station 129 with over 300 photos! Pics of AMR's new ambulance, Care Fire Demo, CHP SMPV, Kern County FD's E15 and P15, Antique Squad 51 from the TV Show, and Rescue 11, Battalion 17, Copter 12 doing a water drop and rescue hoist demo, Call Firefighter Engine 317, EST33, Explorer Muster, Heavy Rescue 103, Mobile Light/Air 129, LACoFD's new Dodge Rams, Quint 33 and 24 raising the flag, Squad 134 responding to a call, the new Squad 41, USAR 130, Rapelling Demo, Water Tender 117 and 13s, LASD Truck and Lightbar, Engines 129 and 329, Helitender 1, Crew Buses, Dozer 5 and transport 4, E130, B11, Misc Staff vehicles, Reserve HAZMAT 129, Reserve Cascade Air 129, USFS ANF Engine 35, Patrol 35, AC5, and DIV3! There's a little something for everyone, and as always, Enjoy! UPDATED 5/15/2009: Fire Service Day Part 2 - LAFD 78 This is the second part for al of you LAFD fans. This update includes 176 photos from the new Fire Station 78 that recently opened in the valley. This update includes photos of an Air Bag rescue demonstration, Battalion 14 and Divison 3's new suburbans, EMS14, Engine 278, FS78 including the fire pole, their new handheld radios, full walk around pics of the new HiVis ANSI vest LAFD members are wearing while on calls involving roadways, Plug buggy 78, Paramedic Rescue Ambulance 78 including details of its stretcher and insides, and Truck 78. As always, Enjoy!
  20. As jab pointed out, Flickr is your friend in this case. A search for amr supervisor will give you these results, which also show the original photographer. As AMR is widespread throughout the country, you'll find there is no set standard for their vehicles from one area to another. Typically here in LA we see this kind up in the Antelope Valley
  21. LAFD does not rely on volunteers, but instead has fabled member Fire Inspector/Lead Paramedic Deresa Teller and her dog ranger on its staff. Her vehicle response to incidents would most likely be based on time and day of callup an whether she is on duty for her regular shift or not. LACoFD does not provide vehicles to their members, and they respond in heavily modified POV's. Last time I checked there were over 4 teams made up of LACoFD members. Most around here do provide the vehicles though.
  22. Fog units went out back in the early 70's due to the fact that you CANNOT use them against anything. The problem with the Bean Fog Units was that the high pressure fog would cause steam burns in many situations and it did not provide enough extinguishing power for interior attack. Outside dumpster fires, some car fires, and now and then a small grass fire were about their only real use. Structure fires, interior fires, anything with a high volume of flame, wind, or enclosed space made it useless. Instead today most departments employ combination nozzles on their hoses and deck guns that allow for straight stream or fog so that the firefighter can select the appropriate tool for the job without being locked into just one. Also, today most units have the capability of using CAFS and other foam systems that make dedicated fog units obsolete and useless. CB is a very specific name for a very specific thing. Citizens Band radio used to be a big thing in the 60's and 70's long before the advent of portable cell phones and roadside call boxes in many states. It was a low power (when used legally) non-licensed radio system that any one could use without having to take any tests or licensing procedures with minimal rules by the FCC. It's frequencies were in the 27mhz range and required a long whip antenna. Police, Fire and EMS agencies utilize completely different, and much more advanced, radio systems. Utilizing such technology as repeaters, trunking, digital systems, cross band patches, and other technology, they can be found in the VHF-Lo band (42mhz), VHF-Hi (150mhz), UHF-T band (470-507mhz), or 800mhz regions. Soon the FCC will be consolidating all Public Safety radio systems into the new digital 700mhz spectrum, but that is still pretty far off. Now to answer your questions, Is it usual for fire trucks to relay their radio traffic over a loud speaker? The answer is that it is up to the Captain, and usually the Engineers discretion. What you probably heard was NOT coming from the siren system, but from a speaker over the pump panel as you can see in these two pictures: (top right flush circles) Nearly all Engines have a speaker and a plug in jack for a headset, so that the Engineer can hear the radio traffic when operating the pump panel. Sometimes they'll flip it on when they can't hear their portable radio while on an incident as well, but that tends to be rare. As for the antenna, each band has different requirements for an optimal antenna. The lower the band, the longer the antenna is, is the general rule of thumb. You'll find LONG whips on CHP cars because they operate on the 42mhz spectrum and tend to travel long distances in low/moderate radio coverage. Other departments might have a great repeater system and operate on UHF-T, or 800mhz which requires small antennas, like your cell phone. Departments in more urban settings might go with a stealth antenna which is just a small stub or even a flat pancake on their vehicles since it cuts down on intermod and other interference, yet they can still hit the repeater and talk 100 miles away depending on the system. Here in California, we have various statewide repeater networks that allow me to use a radio in San Diego by the Mexican border and talk to a logistics base up by the Oregon border 691 miles away. Remember when they design a radio system, the key thing is coverage. Very few systems have just one antenna or repeater, but instead have a network of voters and repeaters that blanket an area so that you do not need high power radios or long antennas, even in more rural areas. Most mountain tops and large buildings are literal antenna farms bristling with hundreds of different users trying to get the best coverage possible in their area. Depends on the departments policy and if the USAR dog team is part of the department of if its just a volunteer with a trained dog. Usually if the dog and handler are part of the department, they'll be allowed to respond with lights and sirens in most areas. In fact, some departments even give their handlers vehicles much like police K9 units have. Here is Corona Fire Depts USAR K9 vehicle, which is a city just outside of Los Angeles County.
  23. Google "Airborne Use of Force" "San Bernardino" Many departments are developing policies for use in open terrain areas around the border and deserts with San Bernardino Co. Sheriffs Dept being one of the true pioneers in civilian law enforcement. Also google USCG HITRON or search on here for HITRON for my post on the coast guards airborne use of force units. For most large scale films shot in the Los Angeles region that involve safety concerns or pyrotechnics, either a City or County fire inspector would be on scene to ensure that the film crew has secured the services of private emergency responders. If neccesary, Fire dept resources have been requested to stand by in case of any unforseen incident as well. The LAPD maintains a film unit that handles security, traffic control and other law enforcement issues with off duty or retired officers and motor units. Since in all likelyhood this was done with CGI, there was probably no response by any agency. If you mean a real Emergency Landing by an aircraft, it would be diverted to the nearest airport if possible which would include a full preplanned response by airport ARFF units as well as local Fire department resources depending on the size and type of plane with passenger aircraft eliciting a mass casualty response that might not be needed for a large cargo plane. In regards to foaming the runway, please see this article by the FAA regarding best pracitices for ARFF foam which says: If the airplane is unable to make it to the nearest airport, the next option is usually a water landing similar to the one in New York which would involve a full response by all lifeguard, harbor patrol, dive teams, and coast guard rescue units in the area pertaining to prearranged plans and operating procedures for that ype of Mass Casualty response. Please see this google news link for a plethora of stories on a recent water landing drill conducted by the City and County of Los Angeles. If the airplane is unable to make it to the water or airport, here in Los Angeles, we've had numerous instances of SMALL planes landing on various roads, golf courses and freeways, for a larger plane, there are no sections of streets or freeways clear of obstacles and overpasses long enough for that kind of landing and the response would be a plane down fire and law enforcement response with an extra USAR and mass casualty response. Recently there have been a few disasters on the east coast of that magnitude, the last one in the Los Angeles area that I can remember was the Aeromexico Flight 498 incident. It depends on the department, their responses to ALS and BLS, and the makeup of the station and availibity of other units and nature of the call. For LAFD and LACoFD a truck or light force are typically responded if they are the nearest available unit to cut down on response times and to assist the paramedics with gathering information, CPR, and patient care/lifting. As a general rule of thumb in the Southern California area, vertical ventilation occurs on darn near every fire, especially due to the type of construction we have here. Remember firefighting tactics are based on the type of construction, and what is prevalent in one place might not be in others. Good "vertical ventilation lafd" and you can see how often it occurs. Also see this page for LAFD's ventilation manual on their training site. It's not in every area. For example LACoFD relies on private transport of patients whereas LAFD has their own ambulances. Why? Different strokes for different folks. Its all dependent on cost, area served, and tradition. LACoFD Firefighters are happy they don't have to get stuck wasting hours transporting every band aid call that can dial 911 and are more then happy to leave that to the private ambulance companies to deal with. LAFD on the other hand likes knowing that every ambulance that arrives on scene has a fully rained LAFD firefighter who is familiar with their procedures, level of care, and they never have to worry about contracts or response times that plague contract ambulance companies. Plus the members on the ambulance are fire rated and can function in a greater capacity on other incidents. Depends on the area, some even have green, red, blue, yellow or any other color. The reasons are mostly tradition. Most countries have their fire and ems systems at the federal level vs the local level due to their size. One only needs to look at a map of Europe to see that some countries are smaller then some US states.
  24. Since the nature of this thread is of great importance to mod makers, and any and all people in the United States and abroad who put their hard time and effort into creating things for others to enjoy, I've decided to post some FACTS that everyone should understand, and which apparently, the Original Poster does not. From US Copyright Office What is copyright? Copyright is a form of protection grounded in the U.S. Constitution and granted by law for original works of authorship fixed in a tangible medium of expression. Copyright covers both published and unpublished works. What does copyright protect? Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture. Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section "What Works Are Protected." When is my work protected? Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Do I have to register with your office to be protected? No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration.” Why should I register my work if copyright protection is automatic? Registration is recommended for a number of reasons. Many choose to register their works because they wish to have the facts of their copyright on the public record and have a certificate of registration. Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation. Finally, if registration occurs within 5 years of publication, it is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration” and Circular 38b, Highlights of Copyright Amendments Contained in the Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA), on non-U.S. works. Is my copyright good in other countries? The United States has copyright relations with most countries throughout the world, and as a result of these agreements, we honor each other's citizens' copyrights. However, the United States does not have such copyright relationships with every country. For a listing of countries and the nature of their copyright relations with the United States, see Circular 38a, International Copyright Relations of the United States. Per Circular 38a Netherlands and Possessions · Bilateral Nov. 20, 1899; Berne (Paris) Nov. 1, 1912; UCC Geneva June 22, 1967; UCC Paris Nov. 30, 1985; Phonograms Oct. 12, 1993; WTO Jan. 1, 1995 This means that this mod and other works are covered by US Copyright law, as well as international conventions and any misuse can and WILL BE prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Make no mistake about it, these are the FACTS, and to the original poster, be aware that idle threats and stupidity are not taken lightly in this, or any other forum.
  25. Great pics andrew2007, feel free to keep contributing to this thread. UPDATED 12/30/2008: LAPD and LAFD Well, I took a little break, but the pics kept calling! This is just small update from the day I shot those macro pics and it includes 2 pics of LAPD patrol car, a 17 pic walk around of the LAPD SUV, 12 Pics of LAPD Bike Patrol Officer and bike, and 30 shots of LAFD Crew 3. Enjoy!
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